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        <description> I have some snows now but they are getting pretty tired. 195/65/15 or 205/55/15ish would be great, also sort of local would be great too. Thanks in advance.</description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Alright, we're in the market for some used or NOS tires as well for the E30 - so looking for low aspect 15&quot; tires. We're in the Southeast. Anybody? Andybody?<br />
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Wilson<br />
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For Too Tree Tree Sex For Sex Sex Too For<br />
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or wvonkessler attus comcast dottus net]]></description>
            <dc:creator>wvonkessler</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 21:01:59 -0500</pubDate>
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            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:26:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Are you unemployed?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 09:46:10 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Your bullshit mock &quot;shock&quot; at ordinary adult speech is stupid and you bring it up constantly as if you are actually offended shows you to be the flase front fool that you come across as to me.</div></blockquote>
Um, twas sarcasm John. <br />
The language doesn't shock, or really bother me that much. It's just that you use it needlessly and in an effort to intimidate or bully people when the don't blindly agree with you. You do it like a reflex reaction and it is pointless and tiresome to everyone I talk to. <br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>No comment about YOUR own stupid. and therefore offensive  fatuous accusation that I didn't know what the 1,6 restrictor size was.</div></blockquote>
Um... abbreviated from <a href="http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,65011,65075#msg-65075" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,65011,65075#msg-65075</a><br />
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<b>Quote Morison</b><br />
&quot;Although the top spec open cars in Rally America (L'estage, SRTUSA, SRTC) are actually more powerful with more grunt than <b>a current spec WRC car.</b> (More CC, Larger Restrictior, higher engergy fuel) But in general, you're right. (And, of course, most cars aren't driven to their potential.)&quot;<br />
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<b>Response JVL</b><br />
&quot;And larger restrictor?<br />
&quot;How's Canadian 34mm bigger than FIA 34mm?&quot;<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Again asshole, you want to pontificate about how smart you are, start your own forum. Play the asshole, don't complain when you get responses returning the favor.</div></blockquote>
Except I am neither saying how smart I am nor am I playing 'the asshole.' I was simply bringing a different perspective to your assertion about the performance of the current spec cars in North America in relation to the current WRC spec. A perspective I learned from talking with someone who has driven both. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Perhaps it's time you read the rules written by your Canadian Overlord:</div></blockquote>
I suggest you do the same... I've moved the bold to the appropriate section for you. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>...That's not to say there aren't any rules here. On the contrary, one sure fire way to get booted is to act consistently stupid <b><span style="font-size:medium">or take personal attacks too far.</span></b> Another is to whine or bullshit incessantly without contributing either knowledge or humour to the discussion. Any malicious quoting out of context to seriously deceive (rather than just poke some fun and obviously josh around) is grounds for ass kicking. Ditto on posts complaining about spelling or grammatical errors. If you are convicted by a jury of your peers, you may be sent to the Sin Bin for detention.</div></blockquote>
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Here's an idea. Why not set up a poll to see if the forum users think you take personal attacks too far to a greater degree than I whine/bullshit without contributing knowledge or humour to the discussion. The results of the poll will put one of us in the Sin Bin for 30 days. Got the balls for that?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:47:36 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Morison</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Fucking idiot, Moronson. Of course i know what they fucking 1.6 spec is you moron.<br />
What a fucking idiot,  keyboard hero.<br />
can't you just shut your keyboard mouth?</div></blockquote>
Gee - swearing and name calling... what a shock.</div></blockquote>
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Your bullshit mock &quot;shock&quot; at ordinary adult speech is stupid and you bring it up constantly as if you are actually offended shows you to be the flase front fool that you come across as to me..<br />
Get over it, cowboy..<br />
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YOU reap exactly what you sew, Morison. Your intent is returned in exactly the same spirit as your comments are given.<br />
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No comment about YOUR own stupid. and therefore offensive  fatuous accusation that I didn't know what the 1,6 restrictor size was.. <br />
Again asshole, you want to pontificate about how smart you are, start your own forum.<br />
Play the asshole, don't complain when you get responses returning the favor.<br />
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Perhaps it's time you read the rules written by your Canadian Overlord:<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>WELCOME TO RALLY ANARCHY!<br />
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This site has been created with the goal of creating a proper rally BBS for the North American scene, for the people who love the sport and hobby. It's based on the idea of Sailing Anarchy, check it out if you want a sample.<br />
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And by proper, I mean highly improper. Most things that will get censored on other Forums is fair game here. Proceed at your own risk. Note that the webmaster is not responsible for the views or opinions posted on this Forum, in a very real and legally binding sense.<br />
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That's not to say there aren't any rules here. On the contrary, one sure fire way to get booted is to act consistently stupid or take personal attacks too far. <b><span style="font-size:medium">Another is to whine or bullshit incessantly without contributing either knowledge or humour to the discussion.</span></b> Any malicious quoting out of context to seriously deceive (rather than just poke some fun and obviously josh around) is grounds for ass kicking. Ditto on posts complaining about spelling or grammatical errors. If you are convicted by a jury of your peers, you may be sent to the Sin Bin for detention.<br />
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Here's an example of rules you won't see here:<br />
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    &quot;I figure that hosting a forum is a lot like inviting a diverse group of adults to your living room for a discussion that can edify anyone who cares to listen and respectfully participate. Were it my living room and a handful of guests insisted on ignoring common sense rules of decorum by interrupting discussions with personal attacks, derailing trains of thought to further some unrelated agenda, consistently abused their participation privilege by carrying on one's business on the premises or uttered anything that might make a libel attorney salivate then I'd certainly never invite them back.&quot; <br />
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That's fine and dandy, but we need a place to talk openly, especially if it's in a yakking-around-the-garage after dropping-in-an-engine kind of friendly banter. Think of Rally Anarchy as the local clubhouse you probably have never had. Swearing is OK, but don't go overboard.</div></blockquote>
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Maybe you should go pretend to be shocked so you can whine somewhere  where harumphing constantly is appreciated.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 01:43:48 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Fucking idiot, Moronson. Of course i know what they fucking 1.6 spec is you mopron.<br />
What a fucking idiot,  keyboard hero.<br />
can't you just shut your keyboard mouth?</div></blockquote>
Gee - swearing and name calling... what a shock.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 00:28:55 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Mneingolf</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Mneingolf</strong><br/>
Wow, thanks a bunch for all the replies. Yea I wish we could put 14's on the golf but they will not clear the brakes of a mk4 chassis. I won't be doing any serious stage rallies, other than messing around on my own, but I'd like to maybe get my foot in the door of some rallyx. Last night we picked up 4 195/65/15, Cooper weather master tires with 10-13/32nds of tread left on 15&quot; jetta alloys. Those perticular wheels are on the lighter side. Thanks for the great advice.</div></blockquote>
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Try squaring the shoulders.</div></blockquote>
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Noob question alert, what do you mean by squaring shoulders?</div></blockquote>
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The tire's shoulders, where it gores from tread area to sidewalls, if they are squared up, and some gaps, they'll give you more feel in turning in.<br />
Look at this:<br />
<img src="http://www.can-amtalk.com/forums/uploads/monthly_11_2010/post-10882-020876200%201290652593.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
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Or<br />
<img src="http://www.decorativecar.com/images_products/BF_Goodrich_20679.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
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look at yours..<br />
Make your like those.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:53:10 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Mneingolf</strong><br/>
Wow, thanks a bunch for all the replies. Yea I wish we could put 14's on the golf but they will not clear the brakes of a mk4 chassis. I won't be doing any serious stage rallies, other than messing around on my own, but I'd like to maybe get my foot in the door of some rallyx. Last night we picked up 4 195/65/15, Cooper weather master tires with 10-13/32nds of tread left on 15&quot; jetta alloys. Those perticular wheels are on the lighter side. Thanks for the great advice.</div></blockquote>
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Try squaring the shoulders.</div></blockquote>
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Noob question alert, what do you mean by squaring shoulders?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Mneingolf</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 13:00:16 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Morison</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>For 1.6 liters, on tricky turbos nobody can but, just lease..</div></blockquote>
??? I have no idea what you're trying to say there. You started the comparison to WRC cars, apparently not knowing the current spec. of the car. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>...except is the few guys at the very tippy top were driving that good, utilising all that MOAR Powerz, they wouldn't be in USA or Canada, they would be packing up in Cordoba Argentina getting ready to get back across the Atlantic to be ready for Acropolis</div></blockquote>
You do realise that very few are actually being paid to drive in the WRC don't you? You do realise that talent alone won't get anyone a seat in even a PWRC car.<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>You want to have a thread about how <b><i>almost certainly the top cars are whatever,</i></b> start one...</div></blockquote>
Why, you opened the door when you said <i>&quot;All the Subu-bitchi and Mister-buru guys use typically HUGE things same like the WRC guys use... But they're nowhere near the same power or aggressiveness, so their used tires are too big./</i> <br />
We agree that they aren't near the same aggressiveness as the TOP of the WRC, but you're off the mark when it comes to power. Granted, without the aggressiveness, the power stays harnessed and doesn't make it to the tires, so you don't need the tires... but that's not what you said.</div></blockquote>
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Fucking idiot, Moronson. Of course i know what they fucking 1.6 spec is you mopron.<br />
What a fucking idiot,  keyboard hero.<br />
can't you just shut your keyboard mouth?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 10:00:41 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Mneingolf</strong><br/>
Wow, thanks a bunch for all the replies. Yea I wish we could put 14's on the golf but they will not clear the brakes of a mk4 chassis. I won't be doing any serious stage rallies, other than messing around on my own, but I'd like to maybe get my foot in the door of some rallyx. Last night we picked up 4 195/65/15, Cooper weather master tires with 10-13/32nds of tread left on 15&quot; jetta alloys. Those perticular wheels are on the lighter side. Thanks for the great advice.</div></blockquote>
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Try squaring the shoulders.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Wow, thanks a bunch for all the replies. Yea I wish we could put 14's on the golf but they will not clear the brakes of a mk4 chassis. I won't be doing any serious stage rallies, other than messing around on my own, but I'd like to maybe get my foot in the door of some rallyx. Last night we picked up 4 195/65/15, Cooper weather master tires with 10-13/32nds of tread left on 15&quot; jetta alloys. Those perticular wheels are on the lighter side. Thanks for the great advice.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Mneingolf</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>For 1.6 liters, on tricky turbos nobody can but, just lease..</div></blockquote>
??? I have no idea what you're trying to say there. You started the comparison to WRC cars, apparently not knowing the current spec. of the car. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>...except is the few guys at the very tippy top were driving that good, utilising all that MOAR Powerz, they wouldn't be in USA or Canada, they would be packing up in Cordoba Argentina getting ready to get back across the Atlantic to be ready for Acropolis</div></blockquote>
You do realise that very few are actually being paid to drive in the WRC don't you? You do realise that talent alone won't get anyone a seat in even a PWRC car.<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>You want to have a thread about how <b><i>almost certainly the top cars are whatever,</i></b> start one...</div></blockquote>
Why, you opened the door when you said <i>&quot;All the Subu-bitchi and Mister-buru guys use typically HUGE things same like the WRC guys use... But they're nowhere near the same power or aggressiveness, so their used tires are too big./</i> <br />
We agree that they aren't near the same aggressiveness as the TOP of the WRC, but you're off the mark when it comes to power. Granted, without the aggressiveness, the power stays harnessed and doesn't make it to the tires, so you don't need the tires... but that's not what you said.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 23:50:56 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>It isn't - but since WRC spec is now 33mm...</div></blockquote>
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For 1.6 liters, on tricky turbos nobody can but, just lease..<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>Whatever...more trolling..</div></blockquote>
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Not even remotely. Just pointing out that the top cars in the US and Canada are almost certainly putting out more power  <span style="color:#6699FF">ON THE DYNO</span> than WRC cars and, therefor, <span style="color:#9999CC">COULD POTENTIALLY</span> make use of the large tires that are useless as lightly used tires for most of the 'local' cars. <span style="color:#9999CC">except is the few guys at the very tippy top were driving that good, utilising all that MOAR Powerz, they wouldn't be in USA or Canada, they would be packing up in Cordoba Argentina getting ready to get back across the Atlantic to be ready for Acropolis</span>  [/quote]<br />
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FTFY<br />
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You want to have a thread about how <b><i>almost certainly the top cars are whatever,</i></b> start one...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:46:45 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>Haven't we seen that many &quot;Open&quot; cars are sub 180 bhp max, and just listening we can hear the cars are not DRIVEN max...</div></blockquote>
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I'm not talking about many cars, I purposely mentioned the top cars specifically. They are running strong tunes and are being driven hard on the stages. Are they being driven to their poential? Hard to say, but probably not. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>And larger restrictor?<br />
How's Canadian 34mm bigger than FIA 34mm?</div></blockquote>
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It isn't - but since WRC spec is now 33mm...<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>And a 34mm restrictor on a larger motor is going to hurt more.</div></blockquote>
Um. Yah. Kinda. But don't you think a well tuned 2.5L engine with a 34mm restrictor will provide more torque than a well tuned 1.6L engine on a 33? <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>Whatever...more trolling..</div></blockquote>
Not even remotely. Just pointing out that the top cars in the US and Canada are almost certainly putting out more power than WRC cars and, therefor, can make use of the large tires that are useless as lightly used tires for most of the 'local' cars.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 20:45:26 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ John--<br />
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Take a Limbaugh Skittle. Antoine, Richard, and some others ARE getting the throttle open a lot more than a few years ago. Morison just said you were (in general) right and you still had to argue. Relax!<br />
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I DID like the dyno operator operating the throttle line...  <br />
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:SMOOOOCH: Smile! Especially if you just took some Skittles.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>fiasco</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Morison</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>...But they're nowhere near the same power or aggressiveness, so their used tires are too big.</div></blockquote>
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Although the top spec open cars in Rally America (L'estage, SRTUSA, SRTC) are actually more powerful with more grunt than a current spec WRC car. (More CC, Larger Restrictior, higher engergy fuel) But in general, you're right. <br />
(And, of course, most cars aren't driven to their potential.)</div></blockquote>
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The engines MAY have potential---if somebody like the dyno operator opens the throttle.<br />
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Haven't we seen that many &quot;Open&quot; cars are sub 180 bhp max, and just listening we can hear the cars are not DRIVEN max...<br />
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And larger restrictor?<br />
How's Canadian 34mm bigger than FIA 34mm?<br />
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And a 34mm restrictor on a larger motor is going to hurt more.<br />
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Whatever...more trolling..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:04:48 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>
Awfully big, fat and heavy tires for a widdle Golf.</div></blockquote>
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Don't confuse his mk4 2000 Golf at ~3000lbs for an mk2 or mk3 golf at 500-600lbs less.<br />
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The mk4 was built for larger wheels &amp; tires than the mk2 or mk3 could ever fit inside the wheel well. And has stock brakes that are too large for 14&quot; wheels.<br />
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If the mk4 is making over 200hp, I would say you could run the moderately bigger tires.<br />
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Otherwise, John's suggestion of the 14-62 15&quot; from Michelin is the way to go.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Josh Wimpey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 15:01:24 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>...But they're nowhere near the same power or aggressiveness, so their used tires are too big.</div></blockquote>
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Although the top spec open cars in Rally America (L'estage, SRTUSA, SRTC) are actually more powerful with more grunt than a current spec WRC car. (More CC, Larger Restrictior, higher engergy fuel) But in general, you're right. <br />
(And, of course, most cars aren't driven to their potential.)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Morison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 12:35:36 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>ChrisKobi</strong><br/>
Oh yeah 185/65 x or even 175/70 is as wide as even a powerful n.a. car would ever need...</div></blockquote>
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John, would you recomend this size for the Fucus also?<br />
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Hows that appendix, hope you are well![/quote]<br />
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Yeah.  My ol' favorite Michelin for my car was called &quot;14-62 x 15&quot;. It was developed  according to Michelin for 2 liter cars around 200 bhp...<br />
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14cm across the tread<br />
62cm tall<br />
15&quot; wheel<br />
Plenty of grip, not insanely heavy, in fact fairly light...<br />
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All the Subu-bitchi and Mister-buru guys use typically  HUGE things same like the WRC guys use... But they're nowhere near the same power or aggressiveness, so their used tires are too big..<br />
It would be real nice if they used more sensibly sized tires so we could buy their used tires, but like spring rates and turbo sizes, in America, bigger is always better...<br />
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Snot.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Oh yeah 185/65 x or even 175/70 is as wide as even a powerful n.a. car would ever need...[/quote]<br />
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John, would you recomend this size for the Fucus also?<br />
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Hows that appendix, hope you are well!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>ChrisKobi</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 10:10:00 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Aaron Luptak</strong><br/>
if you're going SRS BZNS on grass-o-cross, or just doing something more serious to begin with...<br />
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OD of the tires is the last component of your gearing - spending $$$$ on a short FD all goes out the window if you throw too tall of a tire.<br />
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59-62cm OD seems to be a pretty reasonable place for 2wd cars.  59-60cm means you're running 14s, 62cm is a fairly rare set of 15s.  By and large, it doesn't seem like anybody gets rid of these tires used - most of the used market seems to be open-class 65cm 15&quot; tires.</div></blockquote>
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yeah plus Juan.... gravel tires are not just stiffer than sheeeeut, they're really temperature sensitive...ie you don't get them squirmin, they don't get hot,and they don't get hot and the thread doesn't soften up and comply...<br />
So once again, horses for courses.. Out cheeer in the PNW the bulk of the rally crosses have always been nonsensically tight like maybe snick it into 2nd maybe then back to first. Then it sometimes rains, and sometimes is even cold...Snows worked better than real rally tires... <br />
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The gearing deal IS important but realistically only in stage rally since low gear is low anyway and you are in low--like 1st 2nd in many (too many) grass-o-crosses.. On STAGES you'll be in the 3rd - 4th and that's when lack of power, and lack of gearing hurts by making acceleration SLOW just when you want it to be quick.<br />
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Oh yeah 185/65 x or even 175/70 is as wide as even a powerful n.a. car would ever need...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:05:28 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Aaron Luptak</strong><br/>
if you're going SRS BZNS on grass-o-cross, or just doing something more serious to begin with...<br />
<br />
OD of the tires is the last component of your gearing - spending $$$$ on a short FD all goes out the window if you throw too tall of a tire.<br />
<br />
59-62cm OD seems to be a pretty reasonable place for 2wd cars.  59-60cm means you're running 14s, 62cm is a fairly rare set of 15s.  By and large, it doesn't seem like anybody gets rid of these tires used - most of the used market seems to be open-class 65cm 15&quot; tires.</div></blockquote>
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yeah plus Juan.... gravel tires are not just stiffer than sheeeeut, they're really temperature sensitive...ie you don't get them squirmin, they don't get hot,and they don't get hot and the thread doesn't soften up and comply...<br />
So once again, horses for courses.. Out cheeer in the PNW the bulk of the rally crosses have always been nonsensically tight like maybe snick it into 2nd maybe then back to first. Then it sometimes rains, and sometimes is even cold...Snows worked better than real rally tires... <br />
<br />
The gearing deal IS important but realistically only in stage rally since low gear is low anyway and you are in low--like 1st 2nd in many (too many) grass-o-crosses.. On STAGES you'll be in the 3rd - 4th and that's when lack of power, and lack of gearing hurts by making acceleration SLOW just when you want it to be quick.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:03:23 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ if you're going SRS BZNS on grass-o-cross, or just doing something more serious to begin with...<br />
<br />
OD of the tires is the last component of your gearing - spending $$$$ on a short FD all goes out the window if you throw too tall of a tire.<br />
<br />
59-62cm OD seems to be a pretty reasonable place for 2wd cars.  59-60cm means you're running 14s, 62cm is a fairly rare set of 15s.  By and large, it doesn't seem like anybody gets rid of these tires used - most of the used market seems to be open-class 65cm 15&quot; tires.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Aaron Luptak</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:15:59 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Something in a 14in. Not a ton of options out there. We picked up some 195/60s for $100. Street tires are way more fun at a grass-o-cross, snow tires are better. We couldn't get our car to turn in on fresh grass, might try using them only on the front.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Robert Culbertson</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:23:36 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ What do you suggest, I'm wide open for advice?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Mneingolf</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:03:08 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Awfully big, fat and heavy tires for a widdle Golf.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:27:13 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>WTB: used rally tires.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I have some snows now but they are getting pretty tired. 195/65/15 or 205/55/15ish would be great, also sort of local would be great too. Thanks in advance.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Mneingolf</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:54:44 -0500</pubDate>
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