PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

Dante — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:50:13 -0600

Cool

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:19:54 -0600

SOLD SOLD SOLD.. TO A GUY IN WASHINGTON D.C

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:25:09 -0600

I would never un-turbo my car. I am financially getting ahead now and driving it n/a just blows.. I have no problems braking and my engine/trans has proven excellent . Considering RWV being my first gravel rally , we went pretty balls out without one single off or close call . Remember , I have raced late model dirt track cars for four years prior . I know that dosen't apply to rally , but it does apply to cornering and a huge set of balls to stick that shit in a corner to the floor between two other cars doing the same . Thanks , but I think I will keep on keepin on .

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NoCoast — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:10:48 -0600

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john vanlandingham
When French go rally they aren't going to drive something slow, they want to drive a car different from their daily driver and its going to have more motor, and better box....

I was driving my Renault Clio through some super twisty mountain tarmac outside Avignon area. Scaring the shit out of my passenger and at a pretty decent pace. Voila, out of nowhere, two similar little cars come up behind me and pass me. I could NOT keep up with them.

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john vanlandingham — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:17:38 -0600

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Pascal
If anyone hasn't seen Ragnotti-

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Pascal — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:47:07 -0600

If anyone hasn't seen Ragnotti-

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:21:36 -0600

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czwalga
Wasn't Loebs first rally car a sub 100hp fwd Peugeot or something?

Really it doesn't matter though, the point is it may be a way for him to save money and rally more next season. Whether the numbers work out he would know better than I would. Its just a suggestion.

Doubt that. Probably closer to 130, and knowing the Cup rules--which I have scanned from 2001, it was probably with short gearing.. see the French don't fuck around. Most drive their daily driver 1.3 or 1.4 cars quicker on open roads than most of the field here does on SS.. seriously. I've driven 10s of thousands of miles in France back and forth around the whole country for 2 race seasons, and last was there in a little 1.1 Fiat rental car in 1993 for WRC Monte Carlo. My co-driver was scared shitless and we were a rolling traffic jam and were powned bad by even service rigs passing foot down round blind corners three wheeling I saw once. After 3rd day he decided to return the car and split "if we are ever to be friends again"
He was terror stricken and had 6 years as co-driver at that point..

When French go rally they aren't going to drive something slow, they want to drive a car different from their daily driver and its going to have more motor, and better box....

Besides, if there was a class of 20-40 1.3 cars in a Cup or Trophee, then in that class there's competition, and importantly depth of competition. One blink and 10 guys are ahead.
And, we ain't Loeb.

The most impressive cars at '93 Monte were the 1.3s especially Pavel Sibera and Emil Triner in the Skodas. If you've ever watched the videos of the God named Jean Ragnotti, then you have an idea of how they must drive.
Have you seen any of Ragnotti?

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

czwalga — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:53:25 -0600

Wasn't Loebs first rally car a sub 100hp fwd Peugeot or something?

Really it doesn't matter though, the point is it may be a way for him to save money and rally more next season. Whether the numbers work out he would know better than I would. Its just a suggestion.

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:36:35 -0600

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czwalga
You can still drive a low powered car fast and you'll probably develop better habits because of it.

This is probably just me personally, but if I was looking for a rally car, it wouldnt matter what engine it had in it; I wouldnt pay any more money for the the turbo'd engine vs an NA engine; as a starter/beginner rally car.

Steve, people have been saying that forever, and it is groundless but it keeps getting repeated...the inevitabl thing that's next is boys start mumbling confused versions of "maintaining momentum" and "high cornering speed"

Think of this. Watch a vid (gotta find them with speed and gear diplayed)of Loeb or Gronholm at a T junction on gravel and they'll be down to about 40km/hr at the slowest point. 40km/hr is 24 mph..of course they're on the gas again and BAM! up to speed.

The guys talking fast cars teach bad habits don't know. They are with 99.9% certainty lame ass brakers--brakes being the hardest thing to master--since its the thing needing the most judgement..And they probably haven't owned a "fast" car

SLOW cars teach bad lessons, bad lessons teach bad habits..

EVENTUALLY a person must learn to show restraint in things.
Slow car are so slow what guys learn is tho try and throw them at corners--because they're afraid to slow down---BECAUSE it takes hours to get back up to speed...

So they throw the cars at corners--remember they're newb-u-lar type guys---and they go off crash, DNF and most importantly miss the mileage they most disparately need..

We who know better must stop repeating Bad Cliches, and recognize where those cliches originate and why people say 'em..

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

czwalga — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:20:26 -0600

I dont know dsm's well and what things are worth, but wouldnt you be better of selling the engine/turbo to some ricer kids?

Throw a decent NA engine in. Most likely be cheaper especially if something breaks and you'll come out ahead $. You can still drive a low powered car fast and you'll probably develop better habits because of it.

This is probably just me personally, but if I was looking for a rally car, it wouldnt matter what engine it had in it; I wouldnt pay any more money for the the turbo'd engine vs an NA engine; as a starter/beginner rally car.

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gagegregory — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:58:49 -0600

Remember.. Im pretty damn poor.. Thats why im rallying on used tokico illuminas and have used set of illumina back up struts ! I may be able to sale both sets to some ricer goobs around here to pay for some real shit...Brilliant idea actually!

Gage

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:01:57 -0600

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gagegregory
Ill take some pics.. The 3g is almost identical to the 1g design in the front but looks to bolt into where my wish bone set up goes.. Im goin to snag a set 2 pull a part

OK, I'm sure something can be figured out. Probably 50s by the time you're ready so you can smack into stuff when you get all stoooopid..

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gagegregory — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:03:09 -0600

Ill take some pics.. The 3g is almost identical to the 1g design in the front but looks to bolt into where my wish bone set up goes.. Im goin to snag a set 2 pull a part

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:04:59 -0600

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gagegregory
I may have to take you up on that john . Have you ever done any 1995-99 eclipse suspension. Pretty straight forward design , minus the dual wishbone dumb b.s . I think I can make the 3rd gen front suspension work in a 2g with the old school solid lower control arms .

I've done first gen and it was straitforward. You probably have some 1st gen junk laying around, first thing I'd look at is the splines on the outer CV. If you can poke 'em into first gen then you can probably pull it off, the rest really is just connecting the dots...

Next thing would be to check CV ID splines if the OD into the hub wont work.
In some furrin country where they talk all funny VW guys describe making hybrid outer CV by using the inner cage of one thing with the outer housing/stub of another like some Audi. Maybe that could work but those Japanese are tricky fawkers and the chgange spine couints for no good reason--like the transfer case spline going from 21 to whatever...or legacy rear spine into the hub being 1 toofie less or whatever than Impretzled.

With first gen hubs its an easy 190mm/7.5" travel deal and wasn't any tire to spring interference. What's the rear shock lime for mounting? Damn forked things on bottom?

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:45:23 -0600

I may have to take you up on that john . Have you ever done any 1995-99 eclipse suspension. Pretty straight forward design , minus the dual wishbone dumb b.s . I think I can make the 3rd gen front suspension work in a 2g with the old school solid lower control arms .

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:19:56 -0600

It's rough, iddnit, but as a 4wd car it'll be more inner-esting for selling.
lemme know if you need nice sooper bitchin suspenders.

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:41:07 -0600

well , I guess im keeping this son of a bitch and awd swapping it this winter.. Fml I guess I will be buried in this damn money pit!!

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:58:23 -0500

Really gotta sale this thing.. Taking offers.. Not stupid ones , but offers..

Thanks
Gage

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gagegregory — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:34:24 -0500

TTT

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gagegregory — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:43:25 -0500

Still fur sale.... OBO...

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gagegregory — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:28:17 -0500

Bump.. Buy it! Go Rally!!

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gagegregory — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:11:23 -0500

Its a open diff in it currently . I was told to leave it , that it would drastically shorten the life of transmission components welded and make it handle like shit.. It gets good traction open with the lassa 3's on it..

Gage

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catapultkid — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 06:24:18 -0500

Lsd, open, spool or welded diff in this? I saw the mag write up. It was nice.

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alosix — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:05:42 -0500

You keep dropping the price and I'll have to consider it.

I'll even drive it wearing your old suit..

Full on Gage impersonation.. .. Well exception that I'm a hell of a lot shorter.

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 21:52:16 -0500

Need to sale the car guys.. If im going to have a chance at racing in 2013!!. Spread the word.. Turn key , proven car.

Gage

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

john vanlandingham — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:17:45 -0500

Look! The had some nice cars there, too!
As in Too Forty
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catapultkid — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:40:45 -0500

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I like this one that follows...

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gagegregory — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:59:05 -0500

http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK01SU010323&po=323&pc=1121 . Thanks workers!

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gagegregory — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:57:50 -0500

http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK01SU010323&po=323&pc=1121 does this classify as " corner hooking" ? Haha

Re: PRICE DROP!! O2H 1996 Eagle Talon Tsi (fwd turbo). Ready to Rally!

gagegregory — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:14:34 -0500

John, I couldnt agree with you more. Like I said before, I was told I COULD CUT... Then when they seen I was fuckin there shit up they got all pissy in there panties... Ill stick with rally...

Gage