WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts...

WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... With my motor now set in place, it's time to fab up a pair of motor mounts... I've got some ideas, and some materials to work with, however I lack the essential skills & welder, to actually get it done. Since I'm swapping to a 2.3L Volvo 4-cylinder engine, this swap lacks a lot of the spacial complications with some of the more "exotic" swaps....what I've got going on, is rather simple. Anyone, local to me, interested in helping out? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74070#msg-74070 Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:20:55 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76588#msg-76588 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76588#msg-76588 I didn't take it as a "lesson". But even if I had; even if you meant it as one there's still nothing to be sorry for.

I was merely relating a bit of my own history, (and if anyone needs to apologize - it's ME, as I tend to be Wordy!) and adding a bit of anecdote to keep the conversation running.

Personally, I LOVE to see descriptions and pictures of home-built tools and the projects they're used to create. I don't know which was cooler (to me) in the above pic Sean M. posted: the custom motor-mounts, or the simple-and-effective "engine stand" he used to locate the block while fabricating the mounts.

I used to be the "go to guy" at the last plant I worked at when they needed some kind of device or tool for a particular machine. I think I had the best time fabricating stainless tools for deboning machines and refurbishing an old lathe and a box-brake we aquired from another plant (all on their last legs - all given "new life"). More "fun" fixing them than using them to build other machines, most of the time.]]> Creech Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:37:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76572#msg-76572 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76572#msg-76572 Sorry. Didn't mean for my post to sound like a fab. lesson. Just thought an explaination of why the die was so small would benefit those that might not understand how I had formed the mounts.
Progress is slow when your old.
Don]]> N. Versailles Cobra Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:20:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76526#msg-76526 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76526#msg-76526 used to have bend-radius and die-angle thumb-rules committed to memory, but that was lo these many years ago (you could still count my age upon all my appendages in public, without getting arrested).

The above "kit" is merely a good start for what I have in mind - and it would do probably 75-80% of any "large" projects the home fabricator might need. Modifying it a little to do the more-specialized jobs isn't all that hard, it just takes a bit of ponderin' and fabricatin' skills.

Harbor Freight has a small brake that is designed fit in a 6" vise (I have one around here someplace) that has a "lower" v-block, and three "upper" blocks (a 4", and 2-2" or a 2" and a 1", I forget exactly) works GREAT up to about 12ga. or so. But you'd better have a really good vise, and lube-up the screw on it.

But hey - props for putting one together yourself and coming up with such a clean end-product. Necessity truly IS the Mother of Invention!]]> Creech Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:49:19 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76523#msg-76523 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76523#msg-76523 Don't know how much brake die forming you have done, but the only problem I see with the one you have shown in your post is the same problem I had and why I made up the 4 3/4" long little die to do the mounts. "Real press brakes" have upper dies in various lengths which you put together or separate to overcome the problem. See my flat pix (and mount in place) attached and if you imagine bending 2 oposite sides 90 degrees, then you have to be able to get between the 2 folded sides to complete side 3. Short 4th side is separate and welded in. By the way. The (7) 2" holes were a real PITA with my little bench top mill. Not one of my better ideas. Dah.
Anyway. I'm happy with the result.
Don]]> N. Versailles Cobra Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:44:21 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76517#msg-76517 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76517#msg-76517
http://www.swagoffroad.com/20-TON-Press-Brake-Heavy-Duty-DIY-Builder-Kit-_p_42.html

Except that, they sell it so dang cheap as a "kit" - by the time you've bought all the pieces (if you don't have 'em) you'll actually be money-ahead.]]> Creech Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:43:15 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76469#msg-76469 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76469#msg-76469 Don]]> N. Versailles Cobra Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:33:27 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76464#msg-76464 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76464#msg-76464 Robert Culbertson Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:46:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76460#msg-76460 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76460#msg-76460

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Myles,
To bad your way on the left coast. I made these from 1/8" plate using Harbor Freight 12 ton press and homemade die and then my Step-Son T.I.G welded them up for me with my $100 H/F machine.
Don

pics of the homemade die?]]> Aaron Luptak Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:16:45 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76459#msg-76459 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,76459#msg-76459 To bad your way on the left coast. I made these from 1/8" plate using Harbor Freight 12 ton press and homemade die and then my Step-Son T.I.G welded them up for me with my $100 H/F machine.
Don]]> N. Versailles Cobra Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:10:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,75848#msg-75848 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,75848#msg-75848 79corolla Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:47:46 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74342#msg-74342 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74342#msg-74342 ryanfay Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:59:32 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74207#msg-74207 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74207#msg-74207
140-Series Torque Rod Bushings, from SuperPro...

]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:52:27 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74205#msg-74205 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74205#msg-74205 Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:27:47 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74148#msg-74148 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74148#msg-74148

]]> phlat65 Buy, Sell & Trade Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:30:19 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74146#msg-74146 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74146#msg-74146
I'm going to get those torque rods from Ken, ASAP, and get them cut for fitting...

What thickness sheet of mild steel should i use, to construct the engine mount plate?

Where can I get it?]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:33:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74129#msg-74129 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74129#msg-74129

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john vanlandingham
Hey kid, for reference the bush that Ford uses on the Sierras is a 79-82 Escort front leaf spring bush for vans. Its in a steel case 1.3" OD, 2.315" long, 12mm hole, and the rubber part is about 1.23 diameter.
A 4x4 with the front 7.5" diff weighs maybe a bit less than a Redblock so if that size is good enuf for a 4x4 weight it should be fine for a Redblock.

They last forever and little vibration in the car. Nobody ever commented that they noticed bad vibes.

I'd shoot for something at least that size.

Go big or go home!
I'll measure the torque rod bushings, Ken speaks of, and see how far off we are.
There's inherent benefit for me to pull just another part from the glorious Volvo parts catalogue, if I can.
Not to mention, recycling parts, Ken has tons of, and won't throw away, so we can have parts for occasions like these...

WE've use some Chebby leaf spring bush in the past on a 510 that got a truly Soooooper Bitchin motor called the FJ20, Nissan's copy of the Ford Cosworth BDG 2,0 16v. Worked fine[/quote]

Ohhhh, ahhh...

Just took a lap around the block, so my dog could make another steaming pile...

Observed the new neighbor is a car guy...has a matte black, caged Wide Body 510, down LOW on some cool, Kelly Green wheels, and some nice, authentic Recaros.]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:24:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74123#msg-74123 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74123#msg-74123 A 4x4 with the front 7.5" diff weighs maybe a bit less than a Redblock so if that size is good enuf for a 4x4 weight it should be fine for a Redblock.

They last forever and little vibration in the car. Nobody ever commented that they noticed bad vibes.

I'd shoot for something at least that size.

WE've use some Chebby leaf spring bush in the past on a 510 that got a truly Soooooper Bitchin motor called the FJ20, Nissan's copy of the Ford Cosworth BDG 2,0 16v. Worked fine]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:08:32 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74118#msg-74118 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74118#msg-74118
I love the idea, and the fact that the parts are already in the "Bat-Cave"

I'll lop a pair of brackets off a 240 rear axle, to have welded on to the motor mount brackets....

Maybe we'll be able to bolt these in, and go, go go!]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:18:04 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74104#msg-74104 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74104#msg-74104

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Looks like some torque rod ends and a couple U brackets you could cut out of U channel.

Heck you could add a couple of gussets to the torque rod legs where they hit the X member, and have the cat's meow.

Actually I was thinking about the early style with the one inch Ã˜ hard rubber bushing.

That don't wear out, but nobody wants because it's 'NOT POLY' garbage with half the lifespan of the OE OG rubber.

:S]]> Ken Rogers Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:51:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74100#msg-74100 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74100#msg-74100

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Ken Rogers
Looks like some torque rod ends and a couple U brackets you could cut out of U channel.

Heck you could add a couple of gussets to the torque rod legs where they hit the X member, and have the cat's meow.

As always, I admire your ability to find a good old Volvo part and recycle it, but the overall diameter of the Torque Rod Bushing, and it's sleeve is much too large for the space I have available....

Well, it is worth a second look....though the mounts I pictured do have a smaller outer diameter than the torque rods.]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:22:51 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74098#msg-74098 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74098#msg-74098

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Mylesofsmyles
Steering shaft is acquardly in my way...I should post you some detailed shots.

Thinking something like this'd be bitchinn...

Looks like some torque rod ends and a couple U brackets you could cut out of U channel.

Heck you could add a couple of gussets to the torque rod legs where they hit the X member, and have the cat's meow.]]> Ken Rogers Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:39:56 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74087#msg-74087 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74087#msg-74087

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]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:52:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74082#msg-74082 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74082#msg-74082
Thinking something like this'd be bitchinn...

The bosses for the O.E. Volvo mounts, are right above the flat part of the subframe....

I thought I'd make a plate to bolt to the engine, with a tube, to press the bushing into, then weld the receiving end, straight up, from the subframe.

Any reason I shouldn't stand that square tube w/ Bushing "Straight-Up" from the Subframe, so the receiving cup, on the motor just drops on, and then thru-bolts together?

Hopefully, it'll classify as cheap, effective & simple]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:50:53 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74080#msg-74080 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74080#msg-74080 But that would be the best way: car on site..

You going to mount it to the crossmember?
Have you think about doing like the later 940s? mounts---> o--I I--o

Search piccies of "Ford Escort World Cup crossmember"]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:47:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74078#msg-74078 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74078#msg-74078
It's not a big job, so I'm sure I could bring them something, to fab offsite.]]> Mylesofsmyles Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:33:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74077#msg-74077 Re: WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74077#msg-74077
I've got connections up in Santa Rosa for fab work, but I doubt they want to drive to San Rafael, I can ask around if ya want Myles.]]> Magnum TE Buy, Sell & Trade Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:06:48 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74070#msg-74070 WANTED: NorCal Local Welding Help, Custom Motor Mounts... https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,74070,74070#msg-74070
I've got some ideas, and some materials to work with, however I lack the essential skills & welder, to actually get it done.

Since I'm swapping to a 2.3L Volvo 4-cylinder engine, this swap lacks a lot of the spacial complications with some of the more "exotic" swaps....what I've got going on, is rather simple.

Anyone, local to me, interested in helping out?

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