1988 Porsche 911 Turbo Here's a link to the ad: [s]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/4321089644.html[/s] http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4321457312.html This is a 1988 porsche with almost no modifications, it has just over 75000 miles on it and is in great shape The car is located in Clover, SC. I'll entertain any rallyist with special treatment. https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94231#msg-94231 Fri, 26 Jun 2026 14:42:10 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,95152#msg-95152 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,95152#msg-95152
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Gravity Fed
they are however, god damn sexy ass cars.



For a rear-engined car, it seemed extra-appropriate.]]> Aaron Luptak Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:46:52 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,95150#msg-95150 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,95150#msg-95150 Gravity Fed Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:13:23 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94774#msg-94774 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94774#msg-94774 Chris Sanborn Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:07:24 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94384#msg-94384 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94384#msg-94384 NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:28:06 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94383#msg-94383 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94383#msg-94383
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...Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch?

What do you want to know? We're completing an unfinished cage in a WRX to be RA legal. Building a new RA Open Class car. Jeff is getting out of it after 100AW this year, so it's likely the last time we'll run the SAAB. We've got one of the guys at the shop trained up and putting in cages now, he's pretty meticulous. The Pikes Peak STi is getting a couple additional bars in the cage and a new engine and gearbox.

Is Jeff selling the car?

After this year's 100AW, most likely yes, it will be for sale.]]> modernbeat Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:30:51 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94381#msg-94381 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94381#msg-94381
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john vanlandingham
...Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch?

What do you want to know? We're completing an unfinished cage in a WRX to be RA legal. Building a new RA Open Class car. Jeff is getting out of it after 100AW this year, so it's likely the last time we'll run the SAAB. We've got one of the guys at the shop trained up and putting in cages now, he's pretty meticulous. The Pikes Peak STi is getting a couple additional bars in the cage and a new engine and gearbox.

Is Jeff selling the car?]]> johnhuebbe Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:49:56 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94319#msg-94319 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94319#msg-94319
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...Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch?

What do you want to know? We're completing an unfinished cage in a WRX to be RA legal. Building a new RA Open Class car. Jeff is getting out of it after 100AW this year, so it's likely the last time we'll run the SAAB. We've got one of the guys at the shop trained up and putting in cages now, he's pretty meticulous. The Pikes Peak STi is getting a couple additional bars in the cage and a new engine and gearbox.

Well a coupla boys in the Houston area are buying cars at this very moment and want to start building. I dunno fer nuthin who's doing what down there.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Sun, 09 Feb 2014 07:35:20 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94318#msg-94318 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94318#msg-94318
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...Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch?

What do you want to know? We're completing an unfinished cage in a WRX to be RA legal. Building a new RA Open Class car. Jeff is getting out of it after 100AW this year, so it's likely the last time we'll run the SAAB. We've got one of the guys at the shop trained up and putting in cages now, he's pretty meticulous. The Pikes Peak STi is getting a couple additional bars in the cage and a new engine and gearbox.]]> modernbeat Buy, Sell & Trade Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:35:55 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94317#msg-94317 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94317#msg-94317
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Fclevelandwrx
They both get built now but in all honesty the coolest thing and the thing that held the 911 back most was being air cooled it just didn't allow the car to get enough out of itself.

If you want to know things often you must not listen to fans and anhängers )which is actually 'trailers' but I like to joke. an auf Deutsch is same as Englisch 'on' and hänger ist from hang--something or somebody in this case who 'hangs-on'= and listen to those who have nothing to gain, they can--if they choose--speak honestly

No really it was a typical German thickheadedness.
Herr Doktor F Porsche designed the motor--particularly the head und it is darfür perfektes! Mit fantastisches "flow" thanks to very large valves considering the bore size
Here you see the problem clearly:


Look at zylinder eins und zwei zu rechts.
See the nearly 90o angle zwischen die beide ventilen?

Big angle like that meas a large open combustion chamber...to make any compression more than 7:1 you must put on the top of the piston a giant dome. Bad for flame front propagation

Look at the combustion chamber:



No attempt even at anything like a quench pad. Bad...
And until 4 valve heads finally made it onto German vehicles very typical*...

These thing limit what the motor can stand for compression and hot spots and detonation can only be held at bay in a adavance 1920s design like this via lower compression..

And as we all know, there is a direct realtionship between engine volume and torque

Here is what was beating them even on clean dry asphalt and much less cylinder volume:

That is as good a head made anywhere in the world for 1968---indeed it was basically one bank off a Ford Cosworth F1 V8 motor.

Look at the valve angle. around 44.5 to 45o, nice compact combustion chamber, generous quench pads...detonation not a big problem with a head like that and pistons with little bitty domes like these:


Ford had Cosworth make the iron block BDA in 1968, the 1800 in 75 and the all alloy BDG in 1976. Little difference to a Duratec head in this decade.
Porsches' only option was to increase engine size since they insisted on retaining the archaic head design--as did BMW with their 2 valve junk---and Opel, and Mercedes..

In this history was repeating itself. Just30 years before their solution was 3 valve head VERY SIMILAR in design to the Porsche ideas and it became this:
DB601 at 34 liters and alter
DB603 at 44.5 liters
against
Rolls Royce Merlin at 27 liter...

Ideed when they finally realised that they were too dogmatic, too rigid, too uncreative to design a good head, the Germans at BMW, Opel and Mercedes all with the Northhapton and paid Cosworth to save their schinken.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:44:26 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94314#msg-94314 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94314#msg-94314 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Sat, 08 Feb 2014 21:41:25 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94305#msg-94305 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94305#msg-94305
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modernbeat
Well, those Fords are being built "waaaaaaaaaay badder" than back in the day too.

But I agree. Porsches in general aren't great cars. What IS great about them was the factory support for racing, the high profile of the factory race cars (fan-boi-ism), and the expense and alure of the cars.

Today there are so many better ways to build a competition car.

But of course.
Back when they were current--it really wasn't "factory" Fords or Portches, it was 'well equipped shop built" for both, and 'course today both are built to crazy spec and artistic perfection . So alles egal, oder was?

Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch?]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:02:01 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94304#msg-94304 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94304#msg-94304
But I agree. Porsches in general aren't great cars. What IS great about them was the factory support for racing, the high profile of the factory race cars (fan-boi-ism), and the expense and alure of the cars.

Today there are so many better ways to build a competition car.]]> modernbeat Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 23:11:03 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94303#msg-94303 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94303#msg-94303
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NoCoast
Though the Porsche's don't do as horribly as John might make it sound...
http://www.tenab.net/v2011/110730y.htm
http://www.tenab.net/v2012/120809c1.htm
http://www.tenab.net/v2013/130810g.htm

First, those histroic cars are being built "waaaaaaaaaay badder" than back in the day..
(I am doing several rods and forged pistons sets for some FIA Appendix k Historic cars in Sweden...These rods are nothing like OEM Ford Pinto or Saab 99 rods...one set is +10mm c-c, the other is +13..and much much shorter--and therefor lighter pistons.)
Second in your results look at the cars just ahead or behind; Fawkin 1600 8 v twin cam---a fawkin 2000cc Ford 8v cast iron head Pinto...
Sure those things are insane expensive, especially relative to us cheap ass whiners here..
But come on those Appendix K Porsches have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
bigger motors, good boxes, and they can't do better than a little 1600 Twin Cam or Pinto powered car?

They aren't THAT good, Porsche like BMW lives MAINLY on fan-boi hype...
Thety've NEVER been very good---except in road race classes in Germany where the classes are tailored to them.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:58:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94301#msg-94301 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94301#msg-94301 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 20:22:25 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94300#msg-94300 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94300#msg-94300 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 20:20:32 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94298#msg-94298 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94298#msg-94298
How about some pictures?]]> urr Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:36:44 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94294#msg-94294 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94294#msg-94294 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:17:27 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94292#msg-94292 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94292#msg-94292 http://www.tenab.net/v2011/110730y.htm
http://www.tenab.net/v2012/120809c1.htm
http://www.tenab.net/v2013/130810g.htm]]> NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:08:06 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94291#msg-94291 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94291#msg-94291

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I've never seen an escort that can blow a turbo off the road

Sounds like a bad line in a porn flick...






]]> NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:02:42 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94288#msg-94288 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94288#msg-94288 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:34:24 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94282#msg-94282 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94282#msg-94282
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NoCoast
Maybe you should try Bring a Trailer instead of craigslist.
Is a 88 911 really worth $45k? I have trouble thinking of any Porsche being worth more than a few thou but then again, not a Porsche fan.

Just a glorified insanely unjustifiable overpriced VW with shitty ground clearance and a impossible to cure design flaw that makes them want to swap ends at the slightest loss of rear grip...


Fixed that for ya.
I mean 911s were ground into the dust by the simplest of cars around, little ol' innocent Escorts. They were always too heavy, and underpowered for the weight.

Anybody who has ever play darts in a pub knows the heavy end wants to lead..fortunately darts have a point at the heavy end.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 15:28:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94281#msg-94281 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94281#msg-94281
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NoCoast
Maybe you should try Bring a Trailer instead of craigslist.
Is a 88 911 really worth $45k? I have trouble thinking of any Porsche being worth more than a few thou but then again, not a Porsche fan.

Seems legit http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1988-Porsche-911

The ad, not so much. Seems more like a scam to me.]]> si Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:04:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94280#msg-94280 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94280#msg-94280
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NoCoast
Maybe you should try Bring a Trailer instead of craigslist.
Is a 88 911 really worth $45k? I have trouble thinking of any Porsche being worth more than a few thou but then again, not a Porsche fan.

Just a glorified VW with shitty ground clearance and a tendency to oversteer.]]> wvonkessler Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:46:25 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94279#msg-94279 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94279#msg-94279 Is a 88 911 really worth $45k? I have trouble thinking of any Porsche being worth more than a few thou but then again, not a Porsche fan.]]> NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:21:44 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94277#msg-94277 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94277#msg-94277 MConte05 Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 12:25:58 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94276#msg-94276 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94276#msg-94276 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:35:58 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94273#msg-94273 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94273#msg-94273 MConte05 Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:47:41 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94272#msg-94272 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94272#msg-94272 Fclevelandwrx Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:46:56 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94271#msg-94271 Re: 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,94231,94271#msg-94271
Instead write it like your dad would...]]> MConte05 Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:42:20 -0600