El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal Cheap.. although at least one of them is autotragic..... Hard to find manual trans cars around these parts..... http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4506257632.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4514858526.html https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98532#msg-98532 Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:25:44 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98666#msg-98666 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98666#msg-98666
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Those really are nice. here is what $400 gets you locally.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4492284445.html

It does come with a nice bucket seat...]]> alkun Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:43:16 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98615#msg-98615 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98615#msg-98615
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4492284445.html]]> mothra Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:54:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98612#msg-98612 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98612#msg-98612 Jari's car had and still has a 4.44 small case diff. Paired to a 2.8L with M3 cams. Jari did plenty of events with it, Dave's done Ojibwe and 100AW with it. No problems.
Though upgrading to a medium case is easy enough.
Dave did a Supra diff in his Compact, something we will never do again.

Medium case you get a 4.10 final drive, which came in early 90s E34 5 series cars. Then get a stock clutch type LSD. Go rally.
When you feel like lock is disappearing you can do stuff like remove spacer and machine a cover to double the amount of plates. 1.9, 2.0, and 2.1 mm plates available.]]> NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:49:34 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98596#msg-98596 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98596#msg-98596
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Small case is fine. Ask Jari.

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Maybe I can re-find that place I got the photo and you can tell them that that diff is fine...



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Yeah nothing a spackling knife and and some jb weld couldn't fix......



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It's fine.. BMW are perfect in every respect. oil pump failures, valve locks failing and dropping valve , cast iron lower shock single shear mounts snapping off right and left, diffs breaking in half, ring and pinions shreading teeth all over....all owner/operator errors.

That diff is fine.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:58:26 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98593#msg-98593 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98593#msg-98593
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Small case is fine. Ask Jari.

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Maybe I can re-find that place I got the photo and you can tell them that that diff is fine...



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Yeah nothing a spackling knife and and some jb weld couldn't fix......



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Small case is fine. Ask Jari.

If you insist. I like nice safe margins...and I like choosing good ratios without going bankrupt.

Maybe I can re-find that place I got the photo and you can tell them that that diff is fine...]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:41:22 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98581#msg-98581 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98581#msg-98581 wvonkessler Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:30:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98576#msg-98576 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98576#msg-98576
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Wow that just slightly came apart-huh?

Modern stuff. Just enough for whatever they decided the car is intended for..]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:29:10 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98575#msg-98575 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98575#msg-98575
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We've got four of them around that were bought for 500-1200.
2.8L OBD2 swaps with M3 cams are plenty.
There are two diffs, small case (~6.8" ring gear) and medium (8"). The four bangers have the small, six have the medium. 4.44 is only small case. 4.10 with LSD is best stock option for these.
We'll have rear turrets done within next couple weeks for these. Quite a few other things we are working on specifically for the Compacts.
Will have a rental Compact available next summer.

Small case an embarrassingly miniscule 168mm aka 6.6"
Medium case ...An OK for low powered n.a. cars maybe safe for 200 ftlbs 188mm aka 7.4" (compare DANA 30 at 7.2" or stock Xratty at 7.5" )
Large Differentials 210mm--a nice strong 8.27"....
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Generally used behind early M5, M6, V8,
V12, some early 7 Series and E 46 M3 engines

As with everything on BMWs I say "Got a 320 E30?...move up two steps on everything for rally"

Of course no alternate ratios that are any good for the large case ones leaving the just barely enough for 190 ft/lbs but probably undersized for the 3.0 24v variocam thing

Certainly could help to make the solid spacer mod and ditch the collapsible spacer on the pinion..]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:28:17 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98573#msg-98573 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98573#msg-98573 RALLYRS Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:18:56 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98572#msg-98572 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98572#msg-98572
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So Grant -for a race car the small case is weak and should just be avoided right?

Particularly if you are upgrading the engine Horsey's substantially from the awesome stock 138 hp?


Small case




Uh, duh.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:09:07 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98566#msg-98566 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98566#msg-98566
Particularly if you are upgrading the engine Horsey's substantially from the awesome stock 138 hp?]]> RALLYRS Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:16:06 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98564#msg-98564 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98564#msg-98564 2.8L OBD2 swaps with M3 cams are plenty.
There are two diffs, small case (~6.8" ring gear) and medium (8"). The four bangers have the small, six have the medium. 4.44 is only small case. 4.10 with LSD is best stock option for these.
We'll have rear turrets done within next couple weeks for these. Quite a few other things we are working on specifically for the Compacts.
Will have a rental Compact available next summer.]]> NoCoast Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:47:27 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98557#msg-98557 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98557#msg-98557
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Holy craps, did not know the e36s where getting that cheap!

Yeah I dont usually see them this cheap.. a semi local search shows private party cars right now at $2100 ,two at $3000, and one at $4600 and one at $4900.

Thats More typical pricing when I search....

Even then ,many of these cars when I search for them often are salvage ,and even though some of them are modded- here in LAlaland easily 75% of them are slushboxes:(]]> RALLYRS Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:35:02 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98538#msg-98538 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98538#msg-98538 mellow65 Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:41:37 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98536#msg-98536 Re: El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98536#msg-98536
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Now those are good links..$400 is great----cheap enough to do some stuff..

One of those 16v 4s fersure can be built make so OK powerz---and a little creative work can get a box with good ratios behind it...

Yeah...like you,I'm really not a BMW guy, but neighbor has one (semi-beater condition 318ti)parked outside and something about the compacts is intriguing.....

And I like the idea of keeping the lightweight 4 banger too- but damn it's hard to find ways to make it get out of it's own way without a used(discontinued) supercharger kit or a home brew turbo.

A whopping 138 hp....

Maybe figure out a homebrew itb set-up ,a tuning solution and throw some gearing at it?


Here's an article on final drive I found:

http://www.318ti.org/notebook/diff_conversion/


But if the automatic 318ti's came stock with a 4.44 final drive,I wonder why don't people just put those in the manual trans cars?


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One of those 16v 4s fersure can be built make so OK powerz---and a little creative work can get a box with good ratios behind it...]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:26:02 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98532#msg-98532 El Cheapo Beemer Compacts in SoCal https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,98532,98532#msg-98532
Hard to find manual trans cars around these parts.....


http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4506257632.html


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4514858526.html]]> RALLYRS Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:11:33 -0500