no sound for me at work sucks, I'll have to watch all of these various links later

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> My opinions are my own and are not to be construed
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> or organization. How's that for legalese?


HeY!!!
No one stopped to yank em out a there?

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rally gods would turn in their graves if they ever knew Lada's were now part of EU rallying!!!

Anyone care to give any insight or speculate on the clutch operation on the gear shift lever that Rohrl had in his audi? I need to install something like this in my car.

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> Anyone care to give any insight or speculate on
> the clutch operation on the gear shift lever that
> Rohrl had in his audi? I need to install something
> like this in my car.

I suggest a dogbox.

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JohnLane

Overkill is consistently more fun

Hugs are better than drugs (or Monster Energy) x o x o x o x

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Ted Mendham
www.rensport.net

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> gpbullock Wrote:
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> > Anyone care to give any insight or speculate
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> > the clutch operation on the gear shift lever
> that
> > Rohrl had in his audi? I need to install
> something
> > like this in my car.
>
> I suggest a dogbox.
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The later Group B Audis did have an electrically activated clutch to facilitate easier left foot braking, which was about the only way you could get those things to turn. There was a button on the shifter but I'm not familiar with the exact technical aspects. Probably an electically controlled hydraulic solenoid.
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> JohnLane
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> Overkill is consistently more fun

BillyElliot Wrote:
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> and where I drove out
> there in my heater-less rally car to barely move
> through the peanut butter mud at 15mph,

You live in Michigan- why doesn't your rally car have a heater? SOme silly idea about weight saving? You planning on wiping the windshield as you drive?

Plus I ended up getting sick afterwards
> because standing in the freezing cold, completely
> soaked through my jacket, and from the calves down
> my pants/socks/shoes were soaked as well.
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> Sounds like poor planning to me. I was there as well.But then I brought rain gear. I'd bet the people here from the PNW don't go anywhere without rain gear.

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count

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I'd bet the
> people here from the PNW don't go anywhere without
> rain gear.
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> Bruce Beauvais
> Too many SAABs to count

You'd be amazed how many people up here don't bother with rain gear, only recently did I acquire a "proper" rain garment, and it was a $5 camo poncho from the military surplus store.


I used to work at OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry) where the USS Blueback now lives (submarine, for those of you unfamiliar) and we gave daily tours. We had a handful of umbrellas for those who wanted them for the walk down to the dock. Any time someone asked for one and went to use it we'd always say "ah, tourist?" and they'd want to know how we knew.

I own two umbrellas. A golf umbrella that I won as a door prize and this really super cool square one that was never claimed from the lost and found at OMSI and looks really old, it's more for looks, I'm not sure if I've ever actually used it. The golf one does get taken to rallies and sometimes used.

Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
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> You live in Michigan- why doesn't your rally
> car have a heater? SOme silly idea about weight
> saving? You planning on wiping the windshield as
> you drive?
>
> > Sounds like poor planning to me. I was there
> as well.But then I brought rain gear. I'd bet the
> people here from the PNW don't go anywhere without
> rain gear.
>
> Bruce Beauvais
> Too many SAABs to count

Only rain gear I have is a FSN Poncho I take to Baseball games to watch the rain in. Everything else I have is for tons of snow from going to school at MTU. It was more poor planning, but I still hate just above freezing weather and rain. I normally don't mind rain and getting wet, it's just when it's windy and cold.

Would you care to speculate on whether the solenoid would be mounted to the clutch pedal or to the gearbox itself?

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> Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
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> > You live in Michigan- why doesn't your
> rally
> > car have a heater? SOme silly idea about
> weight
> > saving? You planning on wiping the windshield
> as
> > you drive?
> >
>
> Only rain gear I have is a FSN Poncho I take to
> Baseball games to watch the rain in. Everything
> else I have is for tons of snow from going to
> school at MTU. It was more poor planning, but I
> still hate just above freezing weather and rain.
> I normally don't mind rain and getting wet, it's
> just when it's windy and cold.
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We still haven't addressed the lack of heater. With that one can at least stay warm. Perhaps we need get you to ice events. Wait, you went to Tech and don't have a heater. Did you get through Thermo? Stay inside Wads all year?
I worked one event without 100% rain gear and got very close to hypothermia. Climbed in the car and started it up- ogt warm and drier. Then I reevaluated my rain gear.

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count

It was on the pedal arm (the pedal was still functioning manually as well) and caused a few insuries when driver left his foot under the pedal. The clutch pedal moved with brutal force and quickness.
I saw it once but don't know if it was A. All electric B. Hydraulic or C. Pneumatic.

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- RWD rocks -

The guy is selling entertainment, and I found it entertaining!! His sponsors got some exposure at the same time and, besides the car resembling a rally car, the video had no connection to rally.

Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
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> > Sounds like poor planning to me. I was there
> as well.But then I brought rain gear. I'd bet the
> people here from the PNW don't go anywhere without
> rain gear.

Rain gear? Who needs that? Our hair is naturally water repellant, like a beaver's. (Merrilee is gonna have a field day with that one...)

C LePoudre Wrote:
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> The guy is selling entertainment, and I found it
> entertaining!! His sponsors got some exposure at
> the same time and, besides the car resembling a
> rally car, the video had no connection to rally.
>

That's all it is, entertainment and marketing. It's gotta be nice to have multiple companies willing to cover expenses (and/or provide nice write-offs) to "build brand awareness" by playing with cars. Just so long as those with the Haliburton cases full of $100s don't stomp on the people who were there first and call them "haters" for not agreeing with everything they do.

This video isn't rally. It is entertaining, but it's no Climb Dance or Rendezvous.

X-Games isn't rally. It is entertaining to watch rally cars get demolished in a sick sort of way, until you think of how many 240s or XR4s or Trabants you could build from the repair costs of that spectacle.

Hell, some of the rallies aren't what they used to be...

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY