Lack of heater I think is to a stuck thermostat (stuck open). The heater core is getting good coolant flow. Felt both the inlet and outlet when engine was warm and both were hot. I bought the car in March, never really tried out the heat until I was coming back from the early October national rallycross in Fowlerville when it was in the 40's or so at night. The heat temperature delta was a bit warmer, but not much. Was enough to keep me from freezing to death and get fog off the windshield, but wouldn't really heat the car.

After LSPR (and being cold on the night transits) I finally decided to look at the HVAC. Found out that the temperature control flap is some swiss cheese flap of metal with holes in it, and covered by some foam stuff to seal the holes. After 20 years, my foam wasn't there. A roll of duct tape later, I get the holes covered and flip the temp switch. HOT AIR!!! But then it went back to a more luke warm (but still warmer than before) air after a few seconds.

I was confused, but said screw it and then went to the rallycross mentioned above. On the drive there, heat wasn't working perfect, and still pretty cold. However, after my buddy did his first runs on the course, I came to the car to swap in for my runs. The car was pumping out tons of heat! Pumped out so much I opened the door and felt a heat wave which was nice compared to the weather.

So I can only think the thermostat is stuck open. That way when the engine is being worked hard, it will heat up the car. OR the airflow through the heater core isn't the greatest and the path of least resitance is somehow getting around the core, thus not heating the air the best way. OR the flow through the heater core could suck. It could be a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B or Column C as well. But all I know is that she makes hot hot heat under heavy load. So on stages I'll be fine, but I'll freeze my butt off on transits if I don't fix this.

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Sounds like poor planning to me. I was
> there
> > as well.But then I brought rain gear. I'd bet
> the
> > people here from the PNW don't go anywhere
> without
> > rain gear.
>
> Rain gear? Who needs that? Our hair is naturally
> water repellant, like a beaver's. (Merrilee is
> gonna have a field day with that one...)


I like beavers!

...only 10pts behind!
PS. How about moving "What lube would JVL use" here

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- RWD rocks -

How much force do you think it would take to push in a clutch pedal? Also, how much stroke? Also, what speed would be optimal? I'm trying to see what is out there for sourcing a solenoid.

Mark...

I had been thinking about this very thought.

My solution was simpler than that, although, I do not know how QUICKLY it would function.

I have a three way fluid solenoid that was marketed as a line lock. It has three ports: normally open, normally closed, and common. (Kinda like a relay)

Put a slave cylinder under the dash, pushing on the clutch pedal linkage. This, actually, looks similar to how Audi did it, but anyway... my thought had the slave vertical and pushing on, say, a 2" radius lever on the forward side of the clutch lever.

Tee the slave inlet to "common". Tie the NC side to something high pressure. P/S system maybe. Doesn't need to be super high flow, -4 would be plenty. NO would dump to the return side of the system.

Problem solved!

IIRC clutch actuation is supposed to be 20-30lb max at the pedal. 6:1 linkage ratio makes 120-150lb of force on the pushrod. This is for OEM specs, aftermarket necessarily will be more, but not significantly so.
I do not know where to get this style valve, this one was given to me.

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2008 04:46PM by Pete.

BillyElliot Wrote:
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> Lack of heater I think is to a stuck thermostat
> (stuck open). The heater core is getting good
> coolant flow. Felt both the inlet and outlet when
> engine was warm and both were hot. I bought the
> car in March, never really tried out the heat
> until I was coming back from the early October
> national rallycross in Fowlerville when it was in
> the 40's or so at night. The heat temperature
> delta was a bit warmer, but not much. Was enough
> to keep me from freezing to death and get fog off
> the windshield, but wouldn't really heat the car.
>
> After LSPR (and being cold on the night transits)
> I finally decided to look at the HVAC. Found out
> that the temperature control flap is some swiss
> cheese flap of metal with holes in it, and covered
> by some foam stuff to seal the holes. After 20
> years, my foam wasn't there. A roll of duct tape
> later, I get the holes covered and flip the temp
> switch. HOT AIR!!! But then it went back to a
> more luke warm (but still warmer than before) air
> after a few seconds.
>
> I was confused, but said screw it and then went to
> the rallycross mentioned above. On the drive
> there, heat wasn't working perfect, and still
> pretty cold. However, after my buddy did his
> first runs on the course, I came to the car to
> swap in for my runs. The car was pumping out tons
> of heat! Pumped out so much I opened the door and
> felt a heat wave which was nice compared to the
> weather.
>
> So I can only think the thermostat is stuck open.
> That way when the engine is being worked hard, it
> will heat up the car. OR the airflow through the
> heater core isn't the greatest and the path of
> least resitance is somehow getting around the
> core, thus not heating the air the best way. OR
> the flow through the heater core could suck. It
> could be a little bit of column A and a little bit
> of column B or Column C as well. But all I know
> is that she makes hot hot heat under heavy load.
> So on stages I'll be fine, but I'll freeze my butt
> off on transits if I don't fix this.


hehe, have you confirmed you have a thermostat? I'd go and swap the thermostat since its a 2 min job on the VW.

What does your water temp gauge say?

Temp gauge is cold when driving on the highway (left side of LED warning light) and when I was driving in LSPR it was going the highest I've ever seen it beyond the LED on the right. It does take a long as time to warm up too. I just gotta get around to doing this and fix it right. But lots of heat on stage is really all I need and I know the car will do that.

You have a special VW there..usually the 16vs run hot.

That sounds like a good idea. Many of the electrical linear solenoids I have found that are small have less force than you listed, something like 11 psi.

Mark Wrote:
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> this thread is getting to me. most of the time i
> don't care, but this one bothers me for some
> reason.
>
> john: your post on haters seems to me to be
> condescending and contradictory. just after
> posting how you aren't "hating" you then go on to
> talk about "real" rally drivers while italicizing
> bits. sure you can't compare ken to ari without
> realizing the vast differences between the time
> period and the people involved, but most of us
> know that. the anger and derision that comes
> across does nothing to bolster anything you say
> and seems trite and contrived. your initial
> response wasn't merely a "meh" but seems to be
> jumble of ken block bashing which mostly isn't
> pertinent to the thread or the conversation at
> hand yet continues to come across by being forced
> upon this thread and others. don't get me wrong,
> i'm usually the first one to say something smarmy,
> smart-ass, or offensive that can sometimes border
> on mean, but its usually tongue in cheek and even
> if it isn't i can appreciate other points of view
> even if i disagree (usually). i appreciate your
> opinion and even more so that you have an opinion
> but this higher-than-though, brow-beating,
> seemingly illogical myopic anger that comes across
> is weary (that sentence goes for you too jens).
>
> -Mark
> www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> www.coloradorallycup.org


damn it, and there i go contradicting myself! fuck!

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-Mark
www.nocoastmotorsports.net

12xalt Wrote:
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> Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
>>
> > Rain gear? Who needs that? Our hair is
> naturally
> > water repellant, like a beaver's. (Merrilee
> is
> > gonna have a field day with that one...)
>
>
> I like beavers!
>
>
"Why're you slowing down?"
" There's beavers in the road."
" The kind with teeth?"
" Yep"
" O.K. Jus' checking."
Obscure movie reference #5025

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2008 09:36AM by Bruce Beauvais.

There you go.... Ken's even with Vagina. Can he pull away?

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- RWD rocks -

Mark Wrote:
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> Mark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > but this higher-than-though, brow-beating,
> > seemingly illogical myopic anger that comes
> across
> > is weary (that sentence goes for you too
> jens).
> >
> > -Mark
> > www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> > www.coloradorallycup.org
>
>
> damn it, and there i go contradicting myself!
> fuck!
>
> -Mark
> www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> www.coloradorallycup.org

It ain't anger at Block, dude.
If anything it's dismay at the simple minded "OOOooooooh ain't it cool", with no further thought.

It's as cool as a TV commercial.

And I'm of the opinion that TV commercials are bullshit too.

Again, it would be one thing if---BY ANY BROADER STANDARDS THAN HE BEATS A BUNCH OF PUTZES LIKE US------ Block could be imagined as fast.

But sub 30s, sub 40th OA on Super-rally isn't too impressive. (I mean the even give guys a re-set button and still piss poor---common as dozen and dozn and dozens of differnt other GpN putzes.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
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> "Why're you slowing down?"
> " There's beavers in the road."
> " The kind with teeth?"
> " Yep"
> " Jus' checking."
> Obscure movie reference #5025
>
>
> Bruce Beauvais
> Too many SAABs to count


one I don't know, but am thinking I should




Although, when I answered that originally, along with the dirty mind aspect, I was also thinking of the "I like frogs" answer given by the little girl in the Portland General Electric public service announcement that they used to play here in Portland when I was a kid that featured KITEMAN.

What do you do when your kite winds around a power line? Call the Kite Man! What about frogs? I like frogs.

12xalt Wrote:
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> Bruce Beauvais Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Why're you slowing down?"
> > " There's beavers in the road."
> > " The kind with teeth?"
> > " Yep"
> > " Jus' checking."
> > Obscure movie reference #5025
> >
> >
> > Bruce Beauvais
> > Too many SAABs to count
>
>
> one I don't know, but am thinking I should
>
>
> "Men with Brooms"- 100% Canadian Content
>
>

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count