OK guys I can only steal your ideas for so long without contributing any. Not that you would want any from me, but any ways. I've been a big fan of this site for years. You guys are what rally should be if you ask me. Kind of tired of the huge dollar cars and big corpo image on the telly and internet. Maybe I'm just jealous. Any ways Thought I could share my recent project with you. After kicking my ass for selling my rally GTX mazdog for a gay nissan 240sx I decided I needed a new rally project. So because I got tired of the 4x4 cars, what other rear driver is something worth having? Of course you guys know, xr or 242. Well i got myself a 70,000 mile non sunroof $100 xr. Of course it didn't run but so what. love this car. I have always been a fan of the euro fords especially the tarmac rally set ups.
So I got the car, got the rs500 body parts from some fly by night company in canada, got the wheels 17x8 O.Z. magnesiums, got some other odds and ends, and almost have the cage finished up. Next up the suspenders and attachment point mods. Don't think that Johns suspenders don't make me drool.
I dont want to suck up to much, but the advice and ideas that you guys dish up really is awesome. Also want to apologize in advance for my non computer skills. I really want to shoot you guys some pics if I can figure it out. Thanks O'Brian



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pic maybee?

Holly shite it worked, sort of.

Thanks for the kind words from the other 'outcasts' over here.
Hey the N40 nissan ain't that gay! We have one of our Rally Anarchistas up in the frozen wasterlands of Ontario doing class wins and pretty good overall with one (with a SR20DET engine and box, JVAB suspenders and good driving)
I'd say with enough stich welding the s'nissan would be OK.

Lisssen though. Seriously.
You better send or post some photos of the cage like toute suite, mang, cause you haven't yet and NOBODY can keep up with the truly BIZARRE interpretations of the rules for that big corporate entity out in the Mid-west.
No joking now don't do anything else before you check in with any of the 3 Oafish-al scrutineer types here, and POST PHOTOS.

Contact: Gene McCollough
Anders Green or
Dave Bowers

So have you done any stichy stichy?
Are you going full bore crazy in the motor?
What rear diff you planning to use????

You have my telephone number?
(Just paid the airfrieght on 17 more Ford Motorsport Bilstein inserts a couple of days ago, have 20 new Chrome Moly stut tubes on the shelf and 40 something of everything else awaiting anodizing as soon as i carve a buncha 3/8 slots into all the spring seats and lock rings--scheduled for spending the day on the mill all daze tamale.

I see you're in Sandy. You know my ol moto-cross buddy Chuck Sun? He had a smoking hot sister that was a UW gymnast way back, oi oi oi oi..............

You doing the fab work yourself????

Come on don't be shy now that you hain't a lurker anymore, you can tell us, we're ytour friends, we're not like the others (heh Heh he....)


Disclaimer: That is NOT me driving. My wife just saw this over the shoulder and said "Who found that picture of you?" She does not believe me that is not me. Now I gotta admit that there has been in my past some pretty insane misadventure involving massive quatities of various hallucinogenic drugs so I can understand the misunderstanding but she doesn't know that the Samoan attorey is higher than a kite, doing 120 accross the desert and see bats the size of B17s swooping down on the car. But I have done any REALLY big multi-day things for years---at least since I was like 42. And Dave Clark didn't eat any.


ob Wrote:
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> OK guys I can only steal your ideas for so long
> without contributing any. Not that you would want
> any from me, but any ways. I've been a big fan of
> this site for years. You guys are what rally
> should be if you ask me. Kind of tired of the
> huge dollar cars and big corpo image on the telly
> and internet. Maybe I'm just jealous. Any ways
> Thought I could share my recent project with you.
> After kicking my ass for selling my rally GTX
> mazdog for a gay nissan 240sx I decided I needed a
> new rally project. So because I got tired of the
> 4x4 cars, what other rear driver is something
> worth having? Of course you guys know, xr or 242.
> Well i got myself a 70,000 mile non sunroof $100
> xr. Of course it didn't run but so what. love
> this car. I have always been a fan of the euro
> fords especially the tarmac rally set ups.
> So I got the car, got the rs500 body parts from
> some fly by night company in canada, got the
> wheels 17x8 O.Z. magnesiums, got some other odds
> and ends, and almost have the cage finished up.
> Next up the suspenders and attachment point mods.
> Don't think that Johns suspenders don't make me
> drool.
> I dont want to suck up to much, but the advice
> and ideas that you guys dish up really is awesome.
> Also want to apologize in advance for my non
> computer skills. I really want to shoot you guys
> some pics if I can figure it out. Thanks O'Brian
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at Jan 10, 2009 by ob.

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ob Wrote:
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> Holly shite it worked, sort of.

Yeah it did! But doooood you are very likely going to have to do dome revisions on the rear cage. see above note.
You coming to Dooo Wops?
(Seems I's being a ass-istant bike tech and co-driving in a Volvo for Albert Kun. Be a good time to meet)

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Yes as a matter of fact I do know Chuck, But I'm friends with his brother Ron. I'm a vet intermediate class moto guy.
OK as far as the cage, I might catch some flack here but all the rule changing in rally really chaps me. Right before SCCA pulled out I had finished my mazda. Before it got log booked it was of no use to me because RA said I can't use it. It would have been a open class car. So I rally crossed it for the last three years instead. Super fun in the grass but not as much anywhere else. Yep I know that the rear of my car is not the RA norm, and I didn't do any sill bars this time. But you know what? I cant keep up with all there crap anyways. I just pretty much build my cars how I want them. Last I looked the rear is legal just a variable on the design. But I'm probably wrong, not to sure any more. It is all 1.75x.095 DOM. I do all the work myself, but I don't claim to be a welder that's for sure. I am trying to re size some more pics, so I can post them for ya. I have not stitched the whole car yet, only the seams inside, not on the bottom.
The motor is getting a mega pee with a smallish holset, and the usual 2.3 tricks. Sure would like some of those fancy suspender things from ya. And I've read a lot about he supra diff that ya like. Maybe I'll start looking for one and get some adaptors from you. What do you really think about the diff the guys at mc2 sell? Wish I could post some pics, think I'll try again. Thanks OBrian

Maybee?

opps.

Nice use of the skate board! I use to do the same thing back when I had one!

Chris

more, maybee?

stichy ell 4d like this?

So did RA actually say you couldn't run the GTX or did they say you had to request a waiver?

Cage looks good, you do nice work..and have inspection holes in the gussets. If that is 1.75 tubing then you're gold with the addition of the required A pillar bars.

Don't want to get shit for pointing out the innumerable bluders and arrogance in the 2 Chriss' dogmatic assertions, but lets say this: you won't be driving at maybe 35mph in a parking lot like they do.
Re the diff: first the thing is a 2 pinion diff, the Toyota diff is a 4 pinion diff.
Second, alternate ring and pinions, IF you can find them will cost who knows what 500? 700? bucks.
Toyota you can find for as low as (really) 10 bucks on Ebay.
Your Xratty rear ratio is 3.64, gravel tires gears that up about an additional 7-8%
So in effect you'll have like 3.34 final drive.

The inability of alternate final drives doesn't concern boys who only know cone-squishing.

With the Toyota diffs if you're lucky you can find a diff with LSD and a 4.3 ring and pinion fore cheap. I got my personal one for $29.75 at Lakewood Pull-a-part.
William of Steel Solutions fame here on RA got 2 4.3 diffs for 65 bucks, but without LSD, also in Lakewood.
Here's the deal MkIII Supra, aka to the JDM crown as MA70s came with LSDs in all Turbos and they got 3,9 in manual trans cars and 4.3 in autotragic cars. SOME non-turbo manual trans cars got the 4,3 and some of them got LSDs.

But fuck me man for 29 bucks we can start with whatever.

As for turbosd, you make that thing all laggy and guys with way less BHPs and zero lag will spank ya.

Have you seen the turbine housings off the Ford Sierra Cosworth T3s that I've been supplying guys?
It'll fit right onto the normal Xratty T3 and it makes the motor feel like a big normal aspirated high compression 6. It, and a nice 3" system is all you need in the motor. It's wastegate port and door are much larger---over 40%--and the outlet is a better design and position and its nearly 40% (OK 39.7%) more area than a standard Ford/Volvo/Saab T3. So very quick spool but enough outlet to let it rev past 7000.

REMEMBER, you don't have to do it all in the motor, there's the gearbox and final drive that help make the car go. Do them pretty correct and a broad torquey powerband will be better.

Listen since you're a bike guy, we oughtter talk more, cause specialty car guys are usually fixated on 'weenie extenders' like BIG turbos, BIG intercoolers BIG simplistic shit to impress other boys.

You want something closer to a KDX200 than a CR500.
A KDX anybody can wring out real good, AND do it all day long; very very few people in the world EVER could really utilise a proper full 500. (I know I couldn't even when I was getting paid pretty good to do 500 Internationals---I was still faster nearly everywhere on a 250, except uphills!)

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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ob Wrote:
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> Yes as a matter of fact I do know Chuck, But I'm
> friends with his brother Ron. I'm a vet
> intermediate class moto guy.

Well what's Chuck doing these days?
Last I knew was when I spent a couple of days with him and "Julle" Julin at the 500GP in Sweden at the town of Huskvarna in April or May of 1979, so 30!!!!! years ago.
I don't knopw if he'd even remember, I was living for years in Sweden and with a friend and we were mostly yakking in Swedish and I think that was the year he'd just discovered "GAWD" (after he'd broken his femur at Lake Whitney in Texas) and he seemed really someplace else.

I did ride in his 911 Porsche he sold to Billy Grossi and we got stupid sideways on West Cliff Drive in "Insanity Cruz" California---and the cliff was on MY SIDE!!!

Why don't we get him and Ron out in the woods in these silly cars?

I know they're way younger than me but still they have to be in their mid 40s or even late 40s and as the doctor said yesterday "You have significant deterioration of the C5-6 and C6 vertebrae, and.......that's why you're in bad pain"
Me "do you think landing on my head repeatedly for 20 years might have something to do with it?"

Tell them it's mostly dry inside cars!!
Doc "maybe just a little"

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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Well I was kind of thinking that was going to be your thought on the m2 whatever diff. I know you like the mk111 supra diff but which US car and is there a part # or other marking on them? As far as the turbo, I do fancy those cossy outlets you got. Seems like you don't have enough of them tho, do ya? And for the gear box the ol T5 is calling my name just have not decided on which one. Tell me what you think.
By the way, yes you can go fast on a KLX200, I can also go fast on my klx110, but thats not the same as my 250. Sure puts a smile on your face tho. OB