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Re: rally future
February 02, 2009 11:25PM
Don't worry DexterVW, you will get used to JVL. I promise you he will grow on you, just like you will grow on him.

I like and know VWs. I've flogged many of them. However, get rid of them and go buy an E36 325i. You'll never look back.








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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 12:07AM
Ozgur:

http://www.sqsracing.com/index.php?load=program&act=gearkits

http://www.gema-motorsport.de/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=19&Itemid=34

Search on these terms "gerade verzahnt" and then "020" or "02J" etc. Gerade Verzahnt means "straight cut" as in straight cut gears.

Wilson



"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne

"Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain
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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 02:04AM
wvonkessler Wrote:
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> Ozgur:
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> Search on these terms "gerade verzahnt" and then
> "020" or "02J" etc. Gerade Verzahnt means
> "straight cut" as in straight cut gears.

More like "straight tooth-ed" (cf zahn ie zahnrad--tooth(ed)wheel in the name ZahnradFrabrik which any Bowel-Movement-Wonder fan knows as ZF (which was originally, Count von Zeppelin's little passtime)
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> Wilson
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> My opinions are my own and are not to be construed
> as representing the viewpoint of any other person
> or organization. How's that for legalese?






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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 02:36AM
wvonkessler Wrote:
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> Ozgur:
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> Search on these terms "gerade verzahnt" and then
> "020" or "02J" etc. Gerade Verzahnt means
> "straight cut" as in straight cut gears.
>
> Wilson-Junge was gibst?
kannst du nicht kopieren diese saftich info?

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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 05:14AM
DexterVW Wrote:
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> Sorry, I'm cerial I'm not trying to argue, its
> probably the engineer in me... i'm stating where I
> got my facts and drew my conclusions (expensive
> Volvo parts, etc).
>

Same site has expensive VW parts too, even more expensive for a vw fender than a volvo.
http://www.everdrive.com/partdetails.aspx?sku=457005
What conclusions can we draw from these facts?
Shop somewhere else.

car-part.com has used volvo fenders from $25.



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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 06:37AM
Thank you for the linky, now gotto persuade the wife.




rally gods would turn in their graves if they ever knew Lada's were now part of EU rallying!!!
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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 11:51AM
I stand corrected by JVL. Zaehne are teeth in German, so "straight toothed."

JVL: Leck mir am Arsch bitte!

Es gehort viel mehr Gessofen.



"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne

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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 01:02PM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
> I have only rallied a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE rally
> car. But I have real gearset, 5.45 ring and pinion, a
> all steel LSD, and spares af all thse, and HAD a
> more than full time business which was 95% the
> same model car I rallied---there was a REASON for
> ME to use that car.

So doesn't that pretty much make Frank's argument to run an Audi or a VW?

I've looked at Frank's photos, and if he can pretty much do whatever the hell he wants with a build - so if he is wanting to run a RWD or AWD VW - Pretty sure he can... Dude has some SERIOUS fabrication skills.

I also wanted to comment on the whole Volvo as a rally car. There's another reason that doesn't seem to get mentioned when referring to the popularity in Scandinavian countries. They're like the Cavalier of Finland. They're very poular - plain and simple. You run what you can. French guys run Peugeots, Germans run BMW's, Swedes run Volvos... They all make great rally cars - but it's likely more important to find a car that YOU feel comfy building...

I love 240 Volvos - but they're not anywhere near the drivers car stock out of the box as a 505 Turbo, so they'll always be down on the list if I ever wanted to build one. Merkur's are great cars as well - but those are more rare than Peugeots up here!

BTW - In advance - if I gave a shit about what people thought about what I drive, then I certainly wouldn't be building a Peugeot!

Great debate though - very entertaining.

Rabin
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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 01:33PM
bean Wrote:
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> BTW - In advance - if I gave a shit about what
> people thought about what I drive, then I
> certainly wouldn't be building a Peugeot!
>
> Great debate though - very entertaining.
>
> Rabin

All you Canadians are frenchy fags anyway. Of course you would be building a Peugeot.

Wilson



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"Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain
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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 02:05PM
wvonkessler Wrote:
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> All you Canadians are frenchy fags anyway. Of
> course you would be building a Peugeot.
>
> Wilson


LOL - Is that the best you had? Coming from the deep south that's like bringing a stick to a gun fight. smiling smiley

Rabin






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/2009 02:20PM by bean.
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BMW e36
February 03, 2009 03:23PM
That's two votes for e36 bmw.



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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 07:50PM
bean Wrote:
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> wvonkessler Wrote:
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> > All you Canadians are frenchy fags anyway.
> Of
> > course you would be building a Peugeot.
> >
> > Wilson
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> LOL - Is that the best you had? Coming from the
> deep south that's like bringing a stick to a gun
> fight.
>
> Rabin
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> Edited 1 times. Last edit at Feb 3, 2009 by bean.

I'm surprised that you were even able to even come up with a snappy comeback, you know, with the dick in your mouth and all. winking smiley







"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne

"Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain
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Re: rally future
February 03, 2009 10:33PM
DexterVW Wrote:
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> People like you are apparently the reason people
> read specialstage.
>

This among the many other gems that this pup has come up with has me holding my sides!!

Yet another engineer who is expert in all things.... In particular those which he clearly has no clue!

I'm laughing my ass off.

My rear-drive Volvo is hillarious as well as effective at winning events. We are sideways through all the turns and faster then all them restricted 4X4 things down any and all the straights. No soda straw holding up the fun in Gp-5.

If memory serves John did mention that turbos and 2.3 liters make a lot of fun....
I'll counter with.... My car's three liter V-6 (the Frenchie thing that Volvo-types tend to hate) Avec a nice T-4 turbo and programmable injection takes that laughs ratio much further in the right direction. Careful though.... Them pansy Dana 30 rears don't have big enough anything to live.

My car is somewhat.... Enhanced from standard.

To the OP..... Go rear-drive; be it a Volvo, X-Ratty, Corolla (getting pretty old nowadays) or BMW and laugh yourself silly.

My buddy Derek went real good in his Golf thing once it actually got all the right junk in it so that it would not break every time out. Then he wadded it up and moved on. Derek $pent GOOD MONEY buying the stuff needed to make that flimsy shit live. Drive axles that would not break every few stages were an interesting thing.... If memory serves they involved 911 turbo outer C/V joints. Ugh.

Don't reinforce VW control arms? Bwahahahahaha!!






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Re: rally future
February 04, 2009 09:13AM
wvonkessler Wrote:
> I'm surprised that you were even able to even come
> up with a snappy comeback, you know, with the dick
> in your mouth and all.

Sorry to pollute the post with a response - But...

Wilson - very good. Your brother-uncle-daddy taught you very well in the ways of homophobia. Well done grasshopper. BTW - Usually those that have such strong homophobic tendencies are just repressing - so you might want to work that one out. Can we move on now? tongue sticking out smiley

Back to the topic:

As for the OP - I'm curious to see what he ends up building as it should be a pretty damn sweet ride. There's definitely some decent platforms to start with - so it'll be interesting to see what he goes outside of VW/Audi.

Rabin



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Re: rally future
February 04, 2009 12:05PM
Thanks man... guess i got some reading to do!
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