So what did you do to your car today?

[earlier this week] My calipers came, found discs that are the right size, HRP TRIED to ship the right MC's... but failed... So the right master cylinders are in transit.

Took the rotors to the machine shop and bored out the center and drilled a new pattern so they mount up to my hubs now. I just have to make my caliper bracket and the brakes are done

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

For other ppl's cars:
Sent an RFQ for waterjet parts for Volvo redblock to Camaro T5 bellhousings.
Also made a prewelding machining drawing for same project.
The production run is gonna be about 27 redblock, 1 PRV, and 1 diesel.

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Monika Hawkinson
Seattle, WA

Sofa King Wrote:
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> For other ppl's cars:
> Sent an RFQ for waterjet parts for Volvo redblock
> to Camaro T5 bellhousings.
> Also made a prewelding machining drawing for same
> project.
> The production run is gonna be about 27 redblock,
> 1 PRV, and 1 diesel.
>
> Kevin Hawkinson
> Seattle, WA
> 83 Volvo 240 Gp5 (in progress)
> 34-ish


Any idea on how much the PRV bellhousing is going to price out at? Curious mostly - but if it's too good a deal to pass up I'd make that 2 PRV bell housings.

Thanks!

Rabin

bean Wrote:
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> Sofa King Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For other ppl's cars:
> > Sent an RFQ for waterjet parts for Volvo
> redblock
> > to Camaro T5 bellhousings.
> > Also made a prewelding machining drawing for
> same
> > project.
> > The production run is gonna be about 27
> redblock,
> > 1 PRV, and 1 diesel.

You want one, send one. That's the deal.
And clean the fuckin thing SPOTLESS before you send it.
(You think I have all these bellhousings just laying around?)
> >
> > Kevin Hawkinson
> > Seattle, WA
> > 83 Volvo 240 Gp5 (in progress)
> > 34-ish
>
>
> Any idea on how much the PRV bellhousing is going
> to price out at? Curious mostly - but if it's too
> good a deal to pass up I'd make that 2 PRV bell
> housings.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rabin
>

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Are you guys making whole new bellhousings, or just adapter plates to bolt the transmission to the volvo bellhousing? Are the chevy T5's bolt patterns different than the ford T5's? Cause it seems there are a few places that do ford t5 to volvo m46/m47 bellhousing adapter plates. Though the ford t5 doesnt have that nice yummy 2.95 first gear, does it? The m47 4.whatever first gear sure sucks even with the 3.33 rear end.

Carl S Wrote:
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> Are you guys making whole new bellhousings, or
> just adapter plates to bolt the transmission to
> the volvo bellhousing? Are the chevy T5's bolt
> patterns different than the ford T5's? Cause it
> seems there are a few places that do ford t5 to
> volvo m46/m47 bellhousing adapter plates. Though
> the ford t5 doesnt have that nice yummy 2.95 first
> gear, does it? The m47 4.whatever first gear sure
> sucks even with the 3.33 rear end.

Carl, yesterday in a Executive meeting out by the back bench --not the typical smoke filled room but we did smoke some American Spirits---Kevvie voted for doing only Chevy because there's little point to compete with particularly Dale from Alberta who has a good plate type adaptor.
We ape planning on soy-sage (being all Grennie type lefty Commie Sleezattlites, we want like all organic range raised soy, not nasty feed lot sausage for us!) shaped deals welded into receiver pockets milled into the stock bellhousing.
We decided shape and thickness yesterday.

We had one innocent boy show up in the middle of the meeting and posed the question of Ford or Chevy and he said no hesitation "Chevy even if the search is harder" because of the way the shifter lines up in the middle of the hole.

Now note there WERE some Ford boxes with the "good" 2.95 gearsets:
V8 to 1895
"Z spec" all years (aftermarket)
2wd Cosworths

Note for $380 you get a gearset to convert your 3.97 first Thunderchicken box to the "good" gear

And my crusty memory says the gears will interchange into a Chevy case if'n youse found a V6 Chevy for example.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Except the whole 0.68 5th, I really like my Z spec which I managed to find for $600 fresh. Upgraded the bearing retainer to the aftermarket steel one after seeing how much damage just two hill climbs did to the aluminium one. Anyhow...

Those types of meetings really make me wish I was in Sleeze town hanging out with you guys John.

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Grant Hughes

I have been going through the wiring schematic, figuring out what I can take out, what needs to be made more robust or rewired, etc.

One advantage of building a car from the 70s is that the entire schematic fits on a single page.

The disadvantage is that the entire harness only has 6 fuses (including three 50A fuses). The works cars had 12 fuses.

alan

john vanlandingham Wrote:
>
> You want one, send one. That's the deal.
> And clean the fuckin thing SPOTLESS before you
> send it.
> (You think I have all these bellhousings just
> laying around?)

Nope - but when I read it I thought it might be an "engine to bellhousing" adapter which I could use as well. You'd swear for days on end if I sent you a PRV bellhousing for a Peugeot... (Even if it was clean... )

If I can round up a Volvo PRV housing in time:


> > Any idea on how much the PRV bellhousing is
> going
> > to price out at?

Thanks,

Rabin

NoCoast Wrote:
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> Except the whole 0.68 5th, I really like my Z spec
> which I managed to find for $600 fresh. Upgraded
> the bearing retainer to the aftermarket steel one
> after seeing how much damage just two hill climbs
> did to the aluminium one. Anyhow...


Well Grant, more than half the reason I like the US spec box is that crazy ass overdrive. I's getting old and kinda stove in and I've been thinking about how I need a lot of pratice some of the other guys are young and they need lots of practice. And even with a 4,3 axle, I can cruise lower rpm in 5th and then cruising out to Eastern Washington and zooming around nice safe roads with 1-2 mile visbility.
4,3 with a 0,82 like a Cossie box would be kinda buzzy.
>
> Those types of meetings really make me wish I was
> in Sleeze town hanging out with you guys John.

Yeah Grant, that'd be fun. We have some good guys around here now. Kevin is just down the hill aboout a mile and a half, Robert "Service Nazi" is just 2 or 3 miles over West from here, "FRAG" DJ is just down the hill over there.
Seattle's a god place and there's plenty of guys who you can even talk politics with getting an ear full of verbatim Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hennitty or worse.
In fact these guys are as far Left as I am, and that's good.


As for the box, 4th will get you past 120, why sweat 5th 'cept for transiting?


>
> Grant Hughes
> www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> Denver, CO

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

I'll probably be okay with it once I get a better final drive. Right now 5th is useless all the time. Even at 75 I can't go to 5th because it's so low I have to go back to 4th to go up hills. So I just stay in 4th unless it's super flat, which is seldom. Now if I'm cruising at 90-95, 5th is driveable. I suppose one of these days I should figure out what I have. It's probably the crappy auto diff back there. I pulled it out of the junkyard and welded it up and installed it a long time ago, before I knew the auto diff was even taller. I have two 4.3 Supra diffs in the garage though so I'll be happy one day.
Finding the time, money, and money to get practice is the hard thing in the US these days. Trying to do more than a few real stage rally events requires a high budget or to live in your area and even then, it still can be costly. We spent the past few weekends lengthening out practice/test facility to have a new 8 mile track that is safe, open, and exactly 55 miles from my house. We drove the scooters there yesterday for fun and the Starlet today and beat on it all day and drove it home. AAA will be my emergency tow vehicle for the value price of $80 a year, which is probably about a months full coverage insurance cost or the cost of a tank of gas on a proper tow vehicle.

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Grant Hughes

For other ppl's cars:
Sent an email to the engineering department at The Gear Works (they're about two blocks from my work) asking about making new rack and pinion gears.

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Monika Hawkinson
Seattle, WA

Kevin,

I drive by that place all the time and wonder if it would be realistic to have some custome gears made. Let us know what they say.

Robert.

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Robert.

"You are way too normal to be on Rally Anarchy." Eddie Fiorelli.

Sofa King Wrote:
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> For other ppl's cars:
> Sent an email to the engineering department at The
> Gear Works (they're about two blocks from my work)
> asking about making new rack and pinion gears.
>
>
>
> Kevin Hawkinson
> Seattle, WA
> 83 Volvo 240 Gp5 (in progress)
> 34-ish

I'm assuming this will be for the very common power rack, like the one that resides in your and my, car at the moment, and not the miserably scarce manual zf rack. I have 2.5 l-2-l gears for a zf but it being hard to find and manual makes it a pain in the ass. If the price was right on these gears your speaking of I might be interested in 2 sets.


As for the bellhousing. Is the work done to bellhousing for the ford and chevy boxes the same? I know that the adapter plates are different but am unsure about the material coming out of the bellhousing. I ask because one of those that is about to be carved up is mine and I have a ford box in the garage. Sourcing a different adapter plate for the ford box is no problem, like you mentioned. I just want to be sure all me parts are lining up. When I sent the b.h. up to John the talk was of doing up the setup to work for both. Maybe I'm foggy.

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Zap zap my ass...

Patrick,
You're right, John wanted to make it work for both.
However:
- the bolt patterns are different, with the top two holes of the Ford pattern overlapping the top two holes of the Chevy pattern. (It's really difficult to have overlapping, parallel threaded holes).
- input shaft lengths are different. Ford input is Volvo BH + adapter plate, Whereas Chevy input = Volvo BH. In other words, we can't accomodate both versions with the same bellhousing.
- Other people are already making adapters for Ford boxes


Oh yeah, and fuck manual steering. These gears are for POWAH!

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Monika Hawkinson
Seattle, WA