While interest in WRC has plummeted and National series is a poor joke...

tipo158 Wrote:
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> > the belief that rally in
> > North America would be better if more people
> raced
> > cheaper cars more often.
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> I agree.
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> However, having been on the competitor end, having
> some glimpse into the sanctioning body end (but
> not enough to really understand what is going on)
> and having been on the organizer end, I don't know
> how to achieve that.
>
> Here in the PNW, people don't take advantage of
> the events that we have now. Why aren't more
> people running Idaho and the BC events?
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> I have seen the budgets for events and I don't see
> how to make them less expensive.
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> You can run less expensive 2WD cars, but it still
> won't be cheap.
>

I don`t doubt that there currently isn`t much room in the organizers budget.

Too bad there isn`t some club owned land or something that would drastically drop the costs.

I know that`s not a new idea.

Cheers,

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

Toady in the WRC we have about 5 drivers that can win.

The 1981 RAC had these drivers with a chance of victory:

Hannu Mikkola,
Ari Vatanen,
Stig Blomqvist,
Pentti Airikkala,
Jean Ragnotti,
Terry Kaby,
Anders Kulläng,
Roger Clark,
Rod Millen (I toss him in because 11th place and a US based driver),
Henri Toivonen
Markku Alén
Guy Fréquelin
Tony Pond
Timo Salonen
Björn Waldegård
Michèle Mouton
Jimmy McRae
Russell Brookes
Malcolm Wilson
Lasse Lampi
Bruno Saby,
John Buffum (again may not really have had a chance but he was there)

That is 20 cars not including a few others like Andrew Cowen who where dam fine drivers too. Fun to watch when there are 25 cars at the sharp end of the field.

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In the long run reality always wins.

hudson Wrote:
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> I don`t doubt that there currently isn`t much room
> in the organizers budget.
>
> Too bad there isn`t some club owned land or
> something that would drastically drop the costs.
>
> I know that`s not a new idea.

Tumbleweed Express in Colorado in two weeks. $140 entry fee, 32 stage miles ~30 transit miles, recce, single day. One 8.1 mile course that we designed ran twice in each direction. All at CORE.

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Grant Hughes

WRC ain't the cat's meow anymore? Really?

Maybe if they rallied real cars other than a few sooped up econobox
grocery-getters.

I was wondering when you would chime in with your stupidity Jens. Hey BTW, do you actually own a Porsche, which is the car you are always professing is the 'bestest car in the world'? I doubt it.

Jens Wrote:
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> WRC ain't the cat's meow anymore? Really?
>
> Maybe if they rallied real cars other than a few
> sooped up econobox grocery-getters.

I know that this is Jens' same old broken record (well, not totally - usually 'mommie-mobile' is thrown in as well), but I really don't understand this criticism. Aside from a small number of exceptions, all rally cars are modified, econobox grocery-getters over most of the history of rally.

gilbrock Wrote:
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> I was wondering when you would chime in with your
> stupidity Jens. Hey BTW, do you actually own a
> Porsche, which is the car you are always
> professing is the 'bestest car in the world'? I
> doubt it.

just when this thread couldn't get any better.


<---sits back, grabs beer and some popcorn.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

gilbrock Wrote:
> Hey BTW, do you actually own a
> Porsche, which is the car you are always
> professing is the 'bestest car in the world'?

I know he used to. Raced it too, I think.

Anders

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.

Anders Green Wrote:
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> gilbrock Wrote:
> > Hey BTW, do you actually own a
> > Porsche, which is the car you are always
> > professing is the 'bestest car in the world'?
>
>
> I know he used to. Raced it too, I think.

Or maybe "circulated around simultaneously as others were competing".

Maybe...
>
> Anders
>
>
>
>
> Raleigh, NC
> Impreza H6 3.0

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

I thought Jens rallied a Camaro and an RX7...

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY

fiasco Wrote:
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> I thought Jens rallied a Camaro and an RX7...


Ding, ding, ding. Almost complete, but you get the prize anyway.


1st rally car TSD was BMW 2002 (mostly in Colorado)

2nd rally car Pro Rally was Porsche 911 (Targa I might add, before the rule
Nazis took over rally.) (That was Ohio) That car was a blast.

3rd rally car was my daily driver Camaro, but I entered it in some Pro Rallies.
(Colorado and Ohio)

4th rally car TSD and Pro Rally was Mazda RX-7 (more of a stage cruiser, because I didn't want to invest lots of time and money, nor damage it). (Connecticut)

My current car isn't being used due to my medical problems, but is an
RX-7 with a 5.0 liter V8.


So no to the dude with his thong stuck in his ass: I don't currently own
a Porsche, but I would if I could.

As for JVL: bite me ya commie.










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I ain't a vegetarian.
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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

I've long said that I will be credited with restrictors in Gp-5.

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JohnLane

Overkill is consistently more fun

John,

That day is coming I am sure. All it will take is for a lawyer to stumble upon a video of you!

Robert.

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Robert.

"You are way too normal to be on Rally Anarchy." Eddie Fiorelli.

So, he used to rally GM and Rx7? Well, go after Mr Lane:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1092483760.html

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