Pond scum

john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> I have heard many times with my own ears doctors
> simpering and snivelling about how much insurance
> premiums they have to pay (and I have heard the
> whining and simpering about what school debts they
> have too, whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Some meanie forced
> them to become doctors, pooor things!)
> Are Doctors loosing their cars and homes because
> of these lawsuits?

Mostly no. That is why they have the insurance.

> > People don't pay
> > doctors all of the time.
>
> Because they have been able to work with the
> insurance and legal parasites and maintain the ol'
> supply and demand for doctors and thus maintain
> their prices at insane levels---that supply and
> demand thing is tacitly conceded by anybody in any
> of these businesses.

They maintain their supply and demand because it costs so much money and takes so much time to become a doctor.

> > Executives are frequently targeted in investor
> > lawsuits.
>
> Good choice of words, parsing them carefully
> Alan.
> "Targeted" yeah but how many loose their homes
> (and i meant plural) and their cars?


> > Robert's point is half right. But what if Joe
> > Blow slipped and fell because the supermarket
> > could be bothered to fix a freezer and it was
> > leaking water on the floor and Joe lost the
> > ability to work for a few weeks. Should the
> > supermarket just have to pay Joe's actual expenses
> > (medical and loss of pay) relating to the injury?
> > What if the supermarket ran the numbers and
> > determined that, on average, it was cheaper to not
> > maintain things properly and not pay staff to mop
> > up water and instead let the water leak,
> > understanding that occasionally they would have to
> > pay for someone's medical and loss of pay? It is
> > only a problem if you happen to be Joe, right?
>
> Maybe Joe would have to keep his eyes open and
> head NOT up his ass.

Because Joe should be walking around the supermarket with his head down low so he can see water spilled on the floor.

The doctor had an obligation to always be right, but the supermarket doesn't have an obligation to provide a safe environment to walk through?

BTW, I was at a restaurant the other night and the soap dispenser in the men's room was leaking. You couldn't see anything on the floor, but it was very slippy and the stuff stayed on your shoes for a while, even if you tried to wipe it off. A few people fell down, including my kid. The restaurant was a big chain with deep pockets, but no one sued.

david amor Wrote:
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>
> Which reminds me of this;
>
> "the problem of course, isn't the Democratic
> System,
> it's the living parts which make up the Democratic
> System.
> the next person you pass on the street,
> multiply
> him or
> her by
> 3 or 4 or 30 or 40 million
> and you will know
> immediately
> why things remain non-functional
> for most of
> us
>
> I wish I had a cure for the chess pieces
> we call humanity...
>
> we've undergone any number of political
> cures
>
> and we all remain
> foolish enough to hope
> that the one on the way
> NOW
> will cure almost everything.
>
> fellow citizens,
> the problem never was the Democratic
> system, the problem is
>
> you."
>
>
>
>
> "As the spirit wanes, the form apears" -Charles
> Bukowski


^^ I actually agree with this...

I usually stay thefuck away from threads like this (and politics and religion) because it just starts the never-ending e-argument.

But I DO believe people are to blame, THEY'RE the ones the hire the fucking lawyers...all those guys do is listen to your point, and then make the best possible argument within the law.

Don't sue, don't hire lawyers, problem fixed.

Americans think they're so 'entitled'....slip on some ice out in the woods and break your back? Your fault, tuff shit. Slip on some ice on a paved sidewalk, and jeeze...WHO'S sidewalk is this? WHY didn't they take care of the ice? I'M SUING........SHUT THE FUCK UP, whatch where you're going, dipshit.


Autoaccidents happen...get over it. OK, if someone is obviously speeding through traffic and causes something, sure....criminal charges. They kill someone? Absolutely. But a typical fender bender? Well, driving is a privilege, not a right, and you assume a risk every time you go out there, so getting $1.5M for a sore neck from a fender bender on your daily commute, well....tough shit.



When I broke my leg skiing at Squaw valley in their terrain park, I went flying off a table top (done it 100 times before) but they put a 'lip' at the end and I wasn't leaning forward enough and I basically went through the air upside down, landed, and broke my leg....bad (tib/fib compound open fracture)....$36K surgery.

A few weeks later I got a form/questionnaire from the insurance company about the circumstances of the accident...date/time/weather conditions/etc. Then a few more questions about the staff, who arrived, what equipment was around....I realized they were looking for a reason to sue to the resort. I wrote in big bold letters, 'THIS WAS MY FAULT, I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ACCIDENT'

Could I have made a big deal and tried to sue (despite the big disclaimer on the lift ticket)? Sure....


One less lawsuit, one less lawyer paid big bucks to get money for an insurance company trying to get out of paying for my leg, which is why I PAY THEM.


PEOPLE need to stop hiring lawyers and take responsibility.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

I see that some of you have bought the insurance company propaganda that they have been investing billions of dollars into over the last 30 years to convince you that all evil arises from the lawyers.

What is the vested interest of an insurance company? To make money - to not pay out claims. How have they manipulated you? See above.

I'm all for responsibility. This means those that cause injuries must be held responsible, just like those that through their own negligence injure themselves must be held responsible.

In addition to making a person whole after they have been hurt by someone else, a lawsuit also serves as a deterrent to bad behavior. Without it, a lot of folks would be a lot worse off.

Tort reform is just the insurance companies limiting your right to recover in the event that you are ever seriously injured by the fault of another. You better think about that.

As to excessive verdicts causing high premiums for you as a consumer, you really need to look beyond the insurance company driven rhetoric to the facts.

On the medical malpractice side, I can promise you that at least in Tennessee, there is no problem with excessive verdicts - as proven through jury verdict research - even though the insurance companies claimed that was what was causing them to raise malpractice premiums. A typical insurance company lie.

I've been involved on both sides of the litigation world - representing companies and insurance companies, as well as people - and promise you that I have never seen a verdict that was not justified given the facts of the case. You need to have more faith in what a jury of twelve can do and reason.

Wilson

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2009 11:28AM by wvonkessler.

The devil visited a lawyer's office and made him an offer.

"I can arrange some things for you, " the devil said.

"I'll increase your income five-fold. Your partners will love you; your clients will respect you; you'll have four months of vacation each year and live to be a hundred."

"All I require in return is that your wife's soul, your children's souls, and their children's souls rot in hell for eternity."

The lawyer thought for a moment.

"What's the catch?" he asked.

Pond scum? Much too kind a choice of words for too many of them.

I had to hire an attorney to force my Beloved Former Business Partner to do something aside from starve Carrie and I out of our business holdings in Seattle.

It took six figures in Attorney fees. He is rumored to have spent twice what we had to defending his position of 'We should just walk away.'

An awful lot of time, money and effort wasted to force this (add colorful adjective here) to do what should have been easily able to be done in 2000. It took until June of 2007 to finish it. Many games. Appeals Court among others.

My choices consisted of the Attorney or ......

Hmmmmm....

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JohnLane

Overkill is consistently more fun