Jon Burke Jon Burke Ultra Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/219/pid/206
In trying to come up with the cheapest way to get to my first rally this year, I was wondering how the RV guys do it, so a quick web search comes up with the above link/product. Under $300 and over 5,000 lbs....sounds pretty good to me. Sure, the rally tires get a little worn on the longer trips, but shit, for saving me over $3K for a full size trailer, that's a lot of tires. Plus, with all that extra trailer weight gone, MPG's are going to go up too. Thoughts? downsides I'm not considering? ![]() same price range, seems a little more beefy, and includes the safety cables. http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/219/pid/882 ![]() Jon Burke - KI6LSW Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/ Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/2009 06:44PM by Jon Burke. |
pikespeakgtx Michael LeCompte Junior Moderator Location: Arcata, CA (Sverdlotsk, Siberien) Join Date: 11/11/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 714 Rally Car: Mazda GTX BPT - - - - - Not full-fledged - - - - - More like fledgling. |
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mack73 Jason Wine Infallible Moderator Location: Seattle, WA Join Date: 02/20/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 448 Rally Car: Started a Golf... Never Finished It |
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Eddie Fiorelli Eddie Fiorelli Mod Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 11/20/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 243 Rally Car: mk2 VW GTI |
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mack73 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Only downside is if the car doesn't have all it's > wheels/suspension parts at the end of the day > > 94 Golf > www.Mack73.com Ditto. If you want to be cheap, get a dolly. Then as long as one end rolls you can get er home. Andrew M Onterrible 30ish |
Carl S Carl Seidel Professional Moderator Location: Fe Mtn, MI Join Date: 02/10/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 765 Rally Car: 1993 honderp |
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Jon Burke Jon Burke Ultra Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
hudson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > mack73 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Only downside is if the car doesn't have all > it's > > wheels/suspension parts at the end of the > day > > > > 94 Golf > > www.Mack73.com > > Ditto. > > If you want to be cheap, get a dolly. Then as > long as one end rolls you can get er home. > > Andrew McNally > Hamilton, ON > 29 uh....good call on the 'what if'...hmmm. I don't expect to be driving that 'hard' for the first few rallies. 'Finish first' will be the motto in 2009, but I know you can't guarantee a finish. do they make dolly's for AWD cars? I guess detaching the back of the axle (4 bolts) before/after a rally ain't too bad. The 2wd dollies I saw were pretty expensive...like, used trailer expensive. UHaul might be the 'insurance', but I thought I heard (the last time I rented from them) they said they only rent out car trailers now if you also rent the Uhaul truck from them too. I'll have to double check. Jon Burke - KI6LSW Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/ |
Rallymech Robert Gobright Super Moderator Location: White Center Seattle Join Date: 04/27/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,292 Rally Car: 91 VW GTI 8V |
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Eddie Fiorelli Eddie Fiorelli Mod Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 11/20/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 243 Rally Car: mk2 VW GTI |
Jon Burke Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > UHaul might be the 'insurance', but I thought I > heard (the last time I rented from them) they said > they only rent out car trailers now if you also > rent the Uhaul truck from them too. I'll have to > double check. > I rent from them for every event I do so unless this changed since February they will rent trailers as long as your vehicle is approved. Full size pickups and above are fine. I know Penske and Budget won't rent trailers unless you also get their truck. |
Morten2 Morten Professional Moderator Location: Vancouver, BC Join Date: 11/04/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 218 Rally Car: 1974 Dodge Colt |
I don't have a trailer and rented from U-Haul.
Two problems I had with U-haul : One : Their in house computer program "verifies" the towing vehicles capacity, adds the trailer weight, adds your trailered vehicles weight, does a magical calculation and lets you know if you're in business. My 74 Colt is too ancient to be part of their whiz program so the pion behind the counter wouldn't take the booking... so off to another location I went and told them it was a 76 Colt and all was fine. Two : I should have planned to pick up the trailer a day or 2 in advance before needing it. The location I booked at had a renter not return the trailer in time. So I had to drive 140 KM on the day I needed the trailer to get a different one from another location. Other than that... U-Haul was great, had great ramps, easy webbed tire surrounds that get racheted down holding the front tires in place. One trailer was new another one was a worn out POS - but did the job. |
Jon Burke Jon Burke Ultra Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
Rallymech Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Food for thought......some transmitions don't > lubricate very well when they are coasting in > neutral without the input shaft turning. > > I say U-Haul. > > Robert. ohh, good one. I'll have to look into that, maybe on NASIOC. yeah, uhaul might be the answer. $50/day ads up quick though....trying to think outside the box. Jon Burke - KI6LSW Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/ |
david amor david amor Mega Moderator Location: Stoney Creek Ontario Join Date: 03/22/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 458 |
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Anders Green Anders Green Junior Moderator Location: Raleigh, NC Join Date: 03/30/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,478 Rally Car: Parked |
These days, looking back over 10 years of events that I've been in and at, a dolly would suffice near 99% of the time. I just looked, new is 850 (no brakes). I bet used it pretty durn cheap. Brakes are nice... but so is a fully enclosed trailer and a V10 diesel and and and...
Anders Grassroots rally. It's what I think about. |
DirkaDirkaJack Jack Russell Professional Moderator Location: Downtown Seattle Join Date: 06/05/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 206 Rally Car: phil's GTI |
i drove my rally car to the first (and only) rally I have done, where i was just there to finish. after that, i will never drive the car to an event again. just not worth the stress if wondering if a wheel is going to fall off on the interstate on the drive home from that ditch you had a close encounter with on stage.
for me u-haul/penske/ryder is the answer. i could potentially do two rallies a year that have like a 50 mile tow (mt hood & OT). i will probably always drive the car to those as the tow is about as long as a transit. since i will probably only be doing 3 or so other rallies a year at best, no reason to own a tow setup. |
tmachnik Tom Machnik Godlike Moderator Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Join Date: 01/31/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 78 Rally Car: 1985 VW GTI |
I drove the rally car to my first two events. 250 miles round trip to the first one, 600 miles round trip for the second one. It was ok at the time, I was young and wanted to rally so bad it was worth it. Had stock final drive, soft motor mounts, and stock seats, so it wasn't too bad on the highway, no way I'd do it now with the really low final drive, near solid motor mounts, tight fibeglass seats etc.. The third event I borrowed a truck and trailer, went off and bent the front suspension up pretty good, good thing I had a trailer. I borrowed the same rig once or twice more, then bought a $500 beater truck of my own. '91 Dodge W250 4X4, extended cab air/tilt/cruise and a canopy! Rented from a local trailer rental place for a good 5 years, have spent easily $2000+ on trailer rentals. A few weeks ago I bought a decent used 16 foot trailer with brakes for $2000. Now I don't have to worry about picking up the trailer on Friday after work, returning it Monday morning before work, yadda yadda. I can tow to rally cross or track events if I want, thinking of doing some ice racing next year, so I can use it for that too. Haul junk with it out to the lake, buy some cheap parts cars at wrecker auctions and haul them away easily. If you can find a good deal on a used one, and have a place to store it, a full trailer is tough to beat, especially in North America with all the stupid long tows we do for events.
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