john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Looks very interesting, read the details at
http://www.rallyofnations.com/index.php It begs the question: How could a bunch of Mexicans do such a great job, attract so many foreign entries from around the world, have $75,000 dollars prize money with this type of help:
I mean isn't the "premier" Series like 100% American Good ol' boy red-blooded, grain fed, Mid-western Fly-over state, HEARTLAND AMERICANS? And aren't they PROFESSIONALS???? And isn't America Number 1? Then how do our Southern cousins do THIS in light of our series? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Dazed_Driver Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Wait.... your not bashing the american teams shake > down times??? I have no idea why they are what they are. Maybe you could explain. Or, let's wait for some stage times. > > Feisty Peacock? > > My noodle I doodled was ate by a poodle John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Dazed_Driver Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Its a joke... not serious... stop sucking the fun > out of life > > > (joke....) That's OK, joke all you want, people say I'm the funniest guy they know, [joke] but you have numerous times told me to shut up about how appallingly slow the "Sharp end of the Stick" in North America is RELATIVE TO MANY OTHER PLACES, and it didn't seem like you were joking THEN.... So this is your chance to rub my nose in it and prove you're as smart as you claim to be. [/joke] This event SHOULD be fun to follow. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
No. Not at all. It was a joke about how you usually are bashing Pastrana and Block (US rally drivers) in other countries events. This is an event in Mexico with US drivers, (Not Block or Pastrana) and you havent said anything. And yes, nothing has happened, stage time wise.
However, jokes are never funny when you have to explain them. Why would I try to rub your nose in anything? I'm not that kind of person. I don't really care how smart you think I think I am. Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
JVL.
Did you see the entry fees? The payout is laughable by NASCAR standards, which btw is the premier motorsport in the US. The citizens, fans, spectators determine what is the popular sports, not sanctioning bodies. You continually jam RA for trying to raise the bar here yet you applaud Mexico for $10,000 entry fees?? You can't have it both ways. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
heymagic Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > JVL. > Did you see the entry fees? > > The payout is laughable by NASCAR standards, which > btw is the premier motorsport in the US. The > citizens, fans, spectators determine what is the > popular sports, not sanctioning bodies. You > continually jam RA for trying to raise the bar > here yet you applaud Mexico for $10,000 entry > fees?? You can't have it both ways. So it's 8 or 9 times the US entry fee for the factory supported teams. The payout is Five Hundred times the RALLY AMERICA payout per stage FIVE THOUSAND THE RALLY AMERICA PAYOUT AND FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES the Rally America payout for the overall win. And come on you know you'll get no argument about NASCAR being the Premier series. But you can't seriously measure the two sports, the decades and by now billions spent promoting what has become in the last 25 years a steamroller, vs our piddly little sport. The point is what an impressive and OBVIOUSLY EFFECTIVE ---judging from the ENTRY LIST---job these fellows down there have done versus the meager list of buy-a-ride guys here. Come on Gene, last time we saw a start list the broad was Olympus '86. As usual rather than argue, can somebody maybe STUDY----once the Idaho and Mexico action is over---discreet elements that saeem to work down there. \Our cultures are not TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO differtent, and dirt is dirt, cars are cars. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
http://www.rallyofnations.com/result/pdf/SS1.pdf
http://www.rallyofnations.com/result/pdf/SS2.pdf http://www.rallyofnations.com/result/pdf/SS2_acum.pdf Stage times. Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > heymagic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JVL. > > Did you see the entry fees? > > > > The payout is laughable by NASCAR standards, > which > > btw is the premier motorsport in the US. The > > citizens, fans, spectators determine what is > the > > popular sports, not sanctioning bodies. You > > continually jam RA for trying to raise the > bar > > here yet you applaud Mexico for $10,000 > entry > > fees?? You can't have it both ways. > > So it's 8 or 9 times the US entry fee for the > factory supported teams. > > The payout is Five Hundred times the RALLY AMERICA > payout per stage > FIVE THOUSAND THE RALLY AMERICA > PAYOUT > AND FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES the Rally America payout > for the overall win. > > > > And come on you know you'll get no argument about > NASCAR being the Premier series. > But you can't seriously measure the two sports, > the decades and by now billions spent promoting > what has become in the last 25 years a > steamroller, vs our piddly little sport. > > The point is what an impressive and OBVIOUSLY > EFFECTIVE ---judging from the ENTRY LIST---job > these fellows down there have done versus the > meager list of buy-a-ride guys here. > > Come on Gene, last time we saw a start list the > broad was Olympus '86. > > As usual rather than argue, can somebody maybe > STUDY----once the Idaho and Mexico action is > over---discreet elements that saeem to work down > there. > \Our cultures are not TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > differtent, and dirt is dirt, cars are cars. > > > > > > John Vanlandingham > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > www.jvab.f4.ca Not trying to argue (this time). I was told today that the payout is quite small by off road racings standards also. Mexico seems to really like off road racing. I believe there is a big effort from several sources to bring motorsports in. Probably for the money that is supposed to come with it. What ever the root cause is, in the states the majority of the people like closed course events. Honestly it isn't going to change anytime soon. RA has spent a bunch of money and time trying to get things going. If it got to the payout stage then the little guys (our guys) wouldn't be involved anymore . I didn't see what I would consider 'regional' cars in the Mexico start list. Possible they are there and I didn't realize it. |
Anders Green Anders Green Ultra Moderator Location: Raleigh, NC Join Date: 03/30/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,478 Rally Car: Parked |
john vanlandingham Wrote:
> As usual rather than argue, can somebody maybe > STUDY ... discreet elements that seem to work down > there. The big question is where did the money come from. Government had something to do with it I hear. Anders Grassroots rally. It's what I think about. |
heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Anders Green Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > john vanlandingham Wrote: > > As usual rather than argue, can somebody > maybe > > STUDY ... discreet elements that seem to work > down > > there. > > The big question is where did the money come from. > Government had something to do with it I hear. > > Anders > > Raleigh, NC > Impreza H6 3.o Speaking of gubmint, GM is out of bankruptcy today. |
Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
heymagic Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > JVL. > Did you see the entry fees? Did you see that the entry fee was in Mexican Pesos? two car team at $17,500 (pesos) is under $1300usd... under $700usd per car! First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 ![]()
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Morison Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > heymagic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JVL. > > Did you see the entry fees? > > Did you see that the entry fee was in Mexican > Pesos? > two car team at $17,500 (pesos) is under > $1300usd... under $700usd per car! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... the plop sickens. Anyway look at this Promo bit: And this: And conratulations to Team USA2, at least they had the balls to enter! And keep on keepin on. > > John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2009 05:00PM by john vanlandingham. |