Look at these sucky Chevettes!
Posted by wvonkessler
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heymagic Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > No one ever raced a Merkur when they were > current(that I'm aware of) and I don't remember a > stock suspended Volvo ever doing well around here > back in the day. It was always RX-3, 510, Colts > without any real mods. Except Ford, but they only raced it in the WRC. 
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Bah, you're just married to your Volvoids because of regional availability John. They aren't that popular out here in the mid-East (I know, most people include Michigan in the mid-West, but it never made sense when I looked at a map ?!?) and there are fewer in our yards.
Chevettes seem to be the pizza delivery car of choice out here, there's a big fleet in most cities out this way so shells and parts are available, if rusty. They also come up as low mile "Gramma" cars quite frequently here as well. There are tons of rally legal GM powertrain options all the way up to LS v8s, and you're doing a T5, 5 link and turrets in your Volvoids and Xratties anyhow so no reason not to do the same in a Chevette. And with those HSR/Escort style "box" flares, they look more purposeful than any Volvoid evar, so :p) Pure mathematics is the enemy of every truly creative man -- Sir Alec |
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Doivi Clarkinen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > But Gene is right, back in the 80's most of > the > > rally cars (club level at least) were a lot > more > > stock, especially in the suspension > department, > > than what is the norm now. > > Now aren't you happy that you didn't have some > Jap-crap with shitty stockish struts, but instead > a superior car with reasonable double A arm > suspension, and a good steering rack with how many > turns? > > Funny thing is I remember thinking when I was > getting all youse Opel guys real rally shocks > "What the hell! Hows this supposed to cost $85 > Jeeeebuz! Thats over 300 for a whole car!!! > > Yeah in the end MOST--because most of the cars > were Japonaise--of the cars had pretty sucky > boingers and even worse steering. > > (Note to all youse relatively younger doooods, ask > Dave, even 25 years ago I said "Get this (Opel > Manta or Ascona or 240 Volvo, Saab) because I can > get you REAL shocks, sprongs, brakes, GEARING. > Motor we can do locally.. Seems like I'm a > broken record: basic chassi, steering, real > suspension, brakes, final drive gearing, box. In > other words choose for the advantage in the car > (not the curiosity value--or cause you have some > dead POS thing in the back yard, choose the car > for real reasons.) > > > > > > > John Vanlandingham > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > www.jvab.f4.ca What advantage does a car have if you have to cut the floor, add 4 links, a Chevy trans, Ford diff, hand built struts, one off brakes just to beat an old jap stock suspended , slow steering car? Your arguement 'for' is actually your arguement 'against'... A Chevette is just as viable as a Merkur or Volvo if you have to do all that work. I could just as easily build a RWD Cavalier or s2000 powered Civic. You need look no further than the Burruss Bros or Cody Crane to see that low spec, easily constructed cars can be driven exceptionally quickly. The trend to over build cars to "race" specs is keeping guys broke, in the garage and off stage. You can't build any car to WRC specs quickly, cheaply or easily, even if those specs are 20 years out dated. That work was done with big budgets, big teams. Kind of like giving a guy a wheelbarrow, shovel, blueprints and telling him to build Bonneville dam... 
2 years of seat time in a stock Golf is worth more than 2 years of building a one-off garage project. You need rallies to run, we need entries for rallies. Neither events or competitors can survive without each other. Right now we need competitors in cars, on stage. Get 'em built, get on stage ...while we still have some events to run....
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