Pete Wrote:
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> It was an Audi Fox.
>
> Wheelbase shortened almost exactly one foot...
> goal was Sport Quattro spec.
>
> For some reason Audi folks have no issue with
> cutting up perfectly fine vehicles to give them
> short wheelbases. There are probably more SQ
> clones out there than Audi ever produced, and half
> of them still have the shallow-raked coupe
> windshield.

How related is the Audi Fox to the VW fox.. I never thought of the VW fox as being a long car.. but not that I think about it.. it is. Looks like a super straight forward shorten.. also looks like a good job.

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Andrew M
Onterrible
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hudson Wrote:
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> Pete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It was an Audi Fox.
> >
> > Wheelbase shortened almost exactly one
> foot...
> > goal was Sport Quattro spec.
> >
> > For some reason Audi folks have no issue
> with
> > cutting up perfectly fine vehicles to give
> them
> > short wheelbases. There are probably more
> SQ
> > clones out there than Audi ever produced, and
> half
> > of them still have the shallow-raked coupe
> > windshield.
>
> How related is the Audi Fox to the VW fox.. I
> never thought of the VW fox as being a long car..
> but not that I think about it.. it is. Looks like
> a super straight forward shorten.. also looks like
> a good job.
>
> Andrew McNally
> Hamilton, ON
> 29

I believe the VW Fox was smaller than a Rabbit, seems like they were made in Brazil or some such. The Audi Fox was a different car and larger. But I'm one of the guys who thought Chevetts were different in the US also....

The VW fox was a NA-only car, I think.
Longitudinal fwd thing. Never as fun as a rabbit or golf.
I think it was around much later than the audi fox. Late 80s-early 90s for the vw fox. Also available in a 2 door wagon. There is one around here (2 door wagon) that the kid cut the roof off of (just the roof, left the pillars and windows) so that he can park his dirt bike in the back.

Carl S Wrote:
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> The VW fox was a NA-only car, I think.
> Longitudinal fwd thing. Never as fun as a rabbit
> or golf.
> I think it was around much later than the audi
> fox. Late 80s-early 90s for the vw fox. Also
> available in a 2 door wagon. There is one around
> here (2 door wagon) that the kid cut the roof off
> of (just the roof, left the pillars and windows)
> so that he can park his dirt bike in the back.


VW Fox apparently came from VW Brasil.. go figure.

The Audi Fox is completely different, but surprisingly similar in looks. I'm not sure if I've ever seen one in real life..

I bet the neighbourhood loves that dirt bike hauler

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

Carl S Wrote:
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> The VW fox was a NA-only car, I think.
> Longitudinal fwd thing. Never as fun as a rabbit
> or golf.
> I think it was around much later than the audi
> fox. Late 80s-early 90s for the vw fox. Also
> available in a 2 door wagon. There is one around
> here (2 door wagon) that the kid cut the roof off
> of (just the roof, left the pillars and windows)
> so that he can park his dirt bike in the back.

The Krautski Fox vs the Brazillian were update sheetmetal and uprated engines to the corporate 1,8 but otherwise similar and they were sold as a "cheaper" alternative to the Golf/Jetta---except adding fancy stuff to the Fox made the differnece sometimes 75 buckskis and few people were out foxed by such clever marketing.

All I know is the Fox OEM top radiator hose works in Saab V4 when I install the bigger 99 sized radiators. Works soooooper bitchin.

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Had an acquaintance that worked in a local parts store. Told me about a stupid lady coming in for a part for her VW Fox. He said you mean Audi Fox. She said VW Fox. He proceded to tell her there was no such thing, she didn't know what she was talking about and ran her off...I had tears laughing at him. I asked him if he even bothered to look in the catalog..nope , he knew there was no such thing...hope she didn't have a 300 lb ex-Marine hubby..

hudson Wrote:
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> I bet the neighbourhood loves that dirt bike
> hauler
>

It fits in with the rest of the neighborhood its in.

The VW Fox is kind of a half breed of the VWAG B2 chassis. (Audi Coupe GT, quattro, 4000(80), VW Quantum(Passat)) Nothing quite swaps over but a lot of things almost do. It's a little smaller in some ways. My favorite is how they put a restrictor in the exhaust manifold so that the engine wouldn't make as much power as a base Golf... or Audi 4000. I'm told that the final year or two had an actual FIVE speed transaxle available, but I've never seen one.

The Audi Fox is a B1 chassis, same as the Dasher. For some reason I am thinking that they cribbed the design of it from NSU when Audi acquired them. According to this guy, a lot of B2 stuff bolts in.

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2009 01:51PM by Pete.

Pete Wrote:
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> The VW Fox is kind of a half breed of the VWAG B2
> chassis. (Audi Coupe GT, quattro, 4000(80), VW
> Quantum(Passat)) Nothing quite swaps over but a
> lot of things almost do. It's a little smaller in
> some ways. My favorite is how they put a
> restrictor in the exhaust manifold so that the
> engine wouldn't make as much power as a base
> Golf... or Audi 4000. I'm told that the final
> year or two had an actual FIVE speed transaxle
> available, but I've never seen one.
>
> The Audi Fox is a B1 chassis, same as the Dasher.
> For some reason I am thinking that they cribbed
> the design of it from NSU when Audi acquired them.
> According to this guy, a lot of B2 stuff bolts
> in.

I'm pretty sure Fox 5 speeds are around in Canada.. I was considering buying one at one point.. Apparently the wheel bearings are complete garbage.

I figured it had a lot of dasher in it

That's kind of funny that they put a restrictor in the exhaust, doesn't really surprise me tho.

Are you thinking it's based on the NSU RO80??

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

I am not sure. I recall hearing somewhere that part of/most of the reason they acquired NSU was so they could get some watercooled cars on the market ASAP since the aircooled models were turning into a huge bust.

But I think that was the K70, not the Fox.

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.

There's this guy spending way too much time on this

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4362130

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-Jason

mack73 Wrote:
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> There's this guy spending way too much time on
> this
>
>
>
> 94 Golf
> www.Mack73.com

What the hell.

I'm supposed to be the insane one. I can't even compete with this guy.

WHY???

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

That looks like a whole lot of work for a whole lot of pointless.

Might make sense for somebody slamming their hoo-ride... but WTF?

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.

If I was keeping track I think this would make my top 5 pointless builds on the internet. I hope he finds a sanctioning body for his "rally racer"

this looks like a guy who was into Dirt Modified and Big Block Modified circle tracks that chose to build "one eh dem rally racin cars yee haww!"