So.......

No restrictor required for Pike's Peak.
On the dyno in Colorado Springs they had 458 hp at the wheels. That was Wednesday though and they were having difficulties with the altitude.
They said the cars were staying in the US for good though apparently.

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Grant Hughes

I was stoked to see them on tv, but Deegan was a poor choice of driver. Even if he did have problems, you see the in car footage of how he was treating the car on his way back to the pits? He would NOT have won even with a perfect car. Shame really.

phlat65 Wrote:
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He would NOT have won even with a perfect car. Shame really.


Why on earth would you think he would in the first place. Did you see the spectacle he put at STPR? He needs more experience.

phlat65 Wrote:
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> I was stoked to see them on tv, but Deegan was a
> poor choice of driver. Even if he did have
> problems, you see the in car footage of how he was
> treating the car on his way back to the pits? He
> would NOT have won even with a perfect car. Shame
> really.

Well since some didn't see---we were watching Finland WRC stage by stage---how did he treat the car? Petting the dash and saying "there there---good little car..."

Or what?

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Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> No one else will start this thread... so I will
>
>
> Brack won the Xgames in a FIESTA.
>
> The subies all lost.
>
>

What? The best and the brightest, cream of the crop, most awesome prestigious, top of their game, "Pro" rally drivers in the U.S. all got schooled by some roundy pounder? For shame.

john vanlandingham Wrote:
> Well since some didn't see---we were watching
> Finland WRC stage by stage---how did he treat the
> car?

> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca


What, what WHAT? Where do you get to see such things? My TV won't show me rally, especially not stage by stage, that's why I have to go to this X-games show every year.

-Dave

I looked like he ran the car into something very solid on purpose while pulling into the pits.

What about when Ken went around the jump, people were scrambling out of his way, and he ran over the tech scales.... Lame

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> What? The best and the brightest, cream of the
> crop, most awesome prestigious, top of their game,
> "Pro" rally drivers in the U.S. all got schooled
> by some roundy pounder? For shame.
He was not an oval driver. He was a Formual 3000 and even F1 test driver before going into IRL and Champ car. But of all the drivers there he's the one with the most experience.

phlat65 Wrote:
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> I looked like he ran the car into something very
> solid on purpose while pulling into the pits.
>
> What about when Ken went around the jump, people
> were scrambling out of his way, and he ran over
> the tech scales.... Lame


They were done with the tech scales by that point, so who cares?

Not sure what was clear on TV, but he smacked the barrier on the turn before the jump and as a result, couldn't build enough speed to be confident he'd clear it. Felt, for a moment at least, like he was 2WD, he said. You don't have much time to make the jump/don't jump decision...

What I haven't figured out is why Travis stopped when he bumped the wall. Didn't look like a hard enough hit to break anything. Both front wheels still pointed the right direction. He came to a stop and just sat there. Never even tried to back up, as far as I could tell. Anybody know what happened? He's been doing this long enough to know you don't just cry when shit goes wrong, so I'm guessing there was a mechanical failure somewhere when he hit, but I don't know what.

-Dave

Brack definitely showed everyone up on the tarmac. He had the cleanest and quickest lines, everyone else was doing huge powerslides but brack was keeping it more in line. Not only did he make it through the eliminations to get 1st he also posted the fastest times of anyone.

Those fiestas are bad ass and I hope they race the series next year. I dont know why they wouldnt be legal in open class, they just out class the vsc subarus by a large margin but are still within the rules.

I think its lame that Pastrana only had to do 1 full lap (against ACP) and still got 2nd.

It was a fun show, though. Not rally, but entertaining racing. Less carnage than last year, the landing seemed bigger and easier to hit. 40 ft gap with a 70 ft sweet spot this year vs 70 ft or death last year.

It looked like he broke the front right tie rod or control arm on the inside and then went outside and hit the wall with rear.

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Grant Hughes

The left front wheel never countersteered (I happened to have a 300mm lens pointed right at him when it happened, so I saw it up close). Seems that if he broke a tie rod on the right, he'd still be countersteering with the left wheel, at least for the instant between impact and finally realizing he was done. Maybe he broke the steering shaft? Seems odd to have the failure that far upstream...

-Dave

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> > No one else will start this thread... so I
> will
> >
> >
> > Brack won the Xgames in a FIESTA.
> >
> > The subies all lost.
> >
> >
>
> What? The best and the brightest, cream of the
> crop, most awesome prestigious, top of their game,
> "Pro" rally drivers in the U.S. all got schooled
> by some roundy pounder? For shame.

I think the words I have heard most is "Super-Stars" and "Rally Gods".
yeah, that's it...that's the ticket.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

The point I was making was it was a fiesta that won, and not a subaru. But yeah. I was wondering when you would chime in.

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Cosworth Wrote:
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> Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > What? The best and the brightest, cream of
> the
> > crop, most awesome prestigious, top of their
> game,
> > "Pro" rally drivers in the U.S. all got
> schooled
> > by some roundy pounder? For shame.
> He was not an oval driver. He was a Formual 3000
> and even F1 test driver before going into IRL and
> Champ car. But of all the drivers there he's the
> one with the most experience.
>

Didn't say oval driver, said roundy pounder. Road courses are still driving around in circles. And before you get too uptight I've worked in pro and club racing (ALMS, SCCA World Challenge, etc) the past few years.

Besides, how dare you interrupt my clever barb with the facts! Never mind that given that he's from Sweden, certainly he's been in a rally car before, right?