Ken Block Escort Mk 2
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Everybody says Blockstrana and Paslock are > friendly guys and approachable but the immense > amounts of money and effort building up some > facade or front is in effect a statement, indeed a > very LOUD statement, essentially SHOUTING "Look at > me!!!!!! Look how good I am!!!!" The videos, the image, the 'persona' are ALL products of being sponsored with enough funding to rally at a high level. Particularly if you want the funding that will allow you to go as hard as you want - even if that means harder than you should - making sure you and your sponsors get the visibility to support it is a big part of true professionalism. Ken is one of a very few people around in North America who is playing in the sport and is likely spending very little, if any, of his own money to do it. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
> You just sit on your ass yapping at people. Oh, but dearest Johnathan... Dave's "yapping" is a talent. No, not what he may or may not post on wienernet forums (who the f*&% cares about what's on wienernet forums anyway??), but his perfect delivery of notes when other navvies are puking their guts out... It's something I could never do. I did it for 15 rallies or so, but not at a very fast pace, and I was already turning green. C'mon John. You can take a little jab. Lord knows you do your share of jabbing.  Lurch Eric Burmeister The west coast...of Michigan Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2009 03:01AM by Lurch. |
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
> Last event I did was February. And how'd that event go for you? I've done T-Bird twice, once in my daily driver and once in my 'Production' 2.5RS, both with single, stock fuel pumps, and drove every inch of the regularities and transits as well as driving to and from the event without a lick of trouble. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
> (And sure I didn't consider P class, why would I > or anybody else even think of P class. P class is > stupid, and I'm not interested in wasting time in > people who voluntarily choose to make their lives > miserable and more difficult and more expensive > than it needs to be. Which is arrogant beyond beleif. I'll give you that the genesis of 'production' classes was catering to manufacturers who wanted a 'race on Sunday sell on Monday' class, but that doesn't mean that there still isn't value in it. I built my first rally car, a P3 second gen RX7, for about $10,000 in 2003. (one of the reasons I tell people to buy their first car) (OK, to be accurate, I paid people to do a LOT of the actual building and had a mechanically inclined co-driver who helped with the rest.) BUT, I built the car using a couple of used cars with differing problems, picked up a couple of specialty bits for it here and there (including ex Hintz springs from Dave) I sold the car after one event, and was lucky to get most of what I put into it back out, The car carried on for several years as a combined road race car and rally car until a rally roll bent the retrofit dash bar on the cage. The owner replaced it with another similarly prepared P3 RX7 that is still going today. (The Koni yellow suspension I made for the car was used to replace the broken hotbits at Defi on the weekend in fact) I will note that at the time there was a healthy P3 class in the region at the time so each event had good class competition... which is really what I look for, Finishing 'only' in class doesn't interest me. I sold the RX7 to buy a Production GT 2.5RS... probably for the wrong reasons. That car had been beaten to the end of it's life and back bit it was a fun car to drive, and I sold it for a marginal loss, costing me about what I would expect it to on a per event basis to own. Again, P4 was crowded that year with stupid fast drivers like Norm Leblanc and Joe Battrick starting in the same year. I still did well in the tight and twisty stages and I certainly didn't have to jump into the same pool as Tom McGeer or Pat Richard. Some of the best racing I have ever had was when I was co-driving with Norm and trading seconds with Matt Johnson and Tanner Foust in the PGT battles. The cars were essetially all the same and we were all getting the same level of performance out of them ... it was brilliant, There was no 'magic part' that cost eleventy billion dollars, no high tech national secrets to make the car insanely fast and, most of all, the companionship and real desire to match up driver against driver was honest and real. Beyond that, racing at the front edge of PGT cost a fraction of what running at the front edge of Open class does. (and we'd run with or beat most of the 'budget build' open cars that were generally less reliable.) The best thing about the P3 RX7 is that it went from street car to its first stage in about six months of casual work. I got stage mileage and experience under my belt and then drove a full season in a bought car. All of this has given me the experience I need to be a better co-driver. (and still a respectable driver) In that same time there have been people who languish away on their G2/G5 builds who have been sold a bill of goods that makes them think that unless the car is perfect and built to the max there is no point in taking it out of the garage. > ...we've seen guys who did entire seasons coming SECOND TO > LAST OVERALL ON EVERY STAGE OF THE SEASON except > 2, BRAG ABOUT HOW THEY ARE THE National Champion. > Shameless) I've seen the same by G2/G5 drivers. I've also seen people tout the brilliance of 'local heros' finishing on the national podium but leave out that they were over eight minutes back of the winner. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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