wildert Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> > Sprint cup is to Circle track as WRC is to
> Rally
> > as F1 is to open wheel. It's not so much that
> it's
> > a "world championship" Its that it's a
> pinnacle.
>
> That doesn't really change much to me. It still
> implies that the Sprint Cup is the best of the
> best within circle track. How's that? Who gets to
> call the Sprint Cup the world pinnacle of circle
> track stuff?
>
> To me, to call any cup or championship the
> pinnacle of a particular sport, it has to be an
> internationally sanctioned event, and thus a true
> world championship.
>
> It's the same thing with the Super Bowl being
> called the world championship of american
> football. Eh?!? WTF? By definition it can't be a
> world championship without giving countries in the
> whole world the chance to participate.
> I have no doubt that an american team would win it
> - no doubt at all - but the tournament as it is
> today, is still no world championship.
>
> Brgrds
> Brian
>
>

It's the top of the pile, anywhere in the world. It's really that simple. Whether its "the same" or not, doesn't really apply in this case. It was a simple comparison for a country where the main known motorsport *is* NASCAR

So why not use NASCARS' highest class?

Even John said, "and is perceived to be the most prestigious championship in its specific branch of motosport... "

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Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> So why not use NASCARS' highest class?
>
> Even John said, "and is perceived to be the most
> prestigious championship in its specific branch of
> motosport... "

Timmay!
Go back and look, tweren't me that said that.
It was Kevin "Kartman" aka JVL's Little Buddy.

No I always have said that the only CAR racing worth a goddam in USA is circle track but that's because there is circle track events all over the country, it has thousands doing it and so a "more normal" distribution of the population is active and so statistically there is a greater chance of people of various skills and aptitudes being in it (a normal bellcurve) and a greater chance of "a more normal distribution of talent, and of GOOD talent showing thru.

As opposed to any sportscar, water bug open wheel or even now rally with sparse participation, vast gulfs of millions of dollars in spending power in same classes
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>
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> Feisty Peacock?
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Oh, I scrolled up too fast. I saw your sig go by then some other post, then that one, and the writing seemed like yours. My bad. Either way, I still include it in my defense of the comparison, haha

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Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> It's the top of the pile, anywhere in the world.
> It's really that simple. Whether its "the same" or
> not, doesn't really apply in this case. It was a
> simple comparison for a country where the main
> known motorsport *is* NASCAR
>
> So why not use NASCARS' highest class?

Because WRC is a true world championship - NASCAR is not.

But I'm guessing we aren't going to agree on that, so lets not waste anymore time on it :-).

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Brgrds
Brian

I wondered how long it would take until someone FINALLY mentioned John Buffum!?!?!?!?

I think John should come out of retirement and do a couple of events to show Blockhead how it's done!

Shoulda seen him drive at Targa a couple of years ago. He was only a camera car but they couldn't loose him. It was hilarious to watch some of the teams try their damnedest to pull away from him.

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Ian Glyn-Jones
Panach Rally Team
Ontario, Canada

I happen to have video of John Buffum at the RAC when we was swapping places with Michell for 3rd and 4th overall. That was some impressive driving.

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Ramon Ferreyros was the first American to run full time, more or less, Enough to win un-official GrN championship a year before it came official. It was called "FIA Production Cup". He was invited to Paris to get the trophy.
Ramon run under Peruvian flag to get Peruvian sponsors but he was born in San Francisco and that was (still is?) part of Norte America.
I hope Ken wins (gets in lucky punch, maybe at Turkish or Creek demolition derby) and generally does well so FORD keep sponsoring WRC.

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- RWD rocks -

This year the Rally of Turkey will be based in Istanbul due to the date moving to April. The stages will not be nearly as brutal. In fact, this weekend they are having the 3rd round of the Istanbul regional championship there.

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