NoCoast Wrote:
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> I'm taking up gold panning next spring. See, I
> like to hike, but really don't see the purpose of
> walking around in the mountains or forest. It's
> almost a waste. But to go hike and camp and pan
> for gold gives a potential reward and totally
> makes it worthwhile.

This is sadly out of step with your "going green" initiative. Panning for gold increases sedimentation in the river and kills fish by suffocating their eggs with a layer of silt.

I'm not convinced that fish are really adding anything so I'm okay with it.
You know that was one of the main points in the Sierra Club's lawsuit against Colorado Springs and the National Forest Service that they won and end result was the complete paving of the Pike's Peak Highway. At the fair cost of hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Grant Hughes

Carhartt are so 1900's for work clothing, you all should know Utilikilts are where it is at for work clothes that also get the hot girls.

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In the long run reality always wins.

Tim Taylor Wrote:
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> NoCoast Wrote:
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> > I'm taking up gold panning next spring. See,
> I
> > like to hike, but really don't see the
> purpose of
> > walking around in the mountains or forest.
> It's
> > almost a waste. But to go hike and camp and
> pan
> > for gold gives a potential reward and
> totally
> > makes it worthwhile.
>
> This is sadly out of step with your "going green"
> initiative. Panning for gold increases
> sedimentation in the river and kills fish by
> suffocating their eggs with a layer of silt.
>
>
>
American fish are such low performance pussies!!!!
That sedimentation argument is what's closing land for rally here---although somehow motorcycles still can drive in the same areas we can't!

BUT just up the road in BC they CAN drive in the woods and aren't getting excluded for little fishies getting bonked by a piece of sand in the side of the head.
Seems Canadian salmons are just not the whiners American salmon are, they are simply tougher, have more Sisu!!

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> American fish are such low performance
> pussies!!!!
> That sedimentation argument is what's closing land
> for rally here---although somehow motorcycles
> still can drive in the same areas we can't!
>
> BUT just up the road in BC they CAN drive in the
> woods and aren't getting excluded for little
> fishies getting bonked by a piece of sand in the
> side of the head.
> Seems Canadian salmons are just not the whiners
> American salmon are, they are simply tougher, have
> more Sisu!!
>
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca

I'll admit to being conflicted on the issue. I like rally cars but I really like Salmon too. Especially being from CA where we have the added issue of water pumping rights/dams to compounding everything. As Mark Twain wrote "Whiskey is for drinking; water is for fighting over."

Tim Taylor Wrote:
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> I'll admit to being conflicted on the issue. I
> like rally cars but I really like Salmon too.
> Especially being from CA where we have the added
> issue of water pumping rights/dams to compounding
> everything. As Mark Twain wrote "Whiskey is for
> drinking; water is for fighting over."

And the beer?
Ah we feed that to them there horse.
Oh, okay. And this used motor oil?
Ah we just burn it in da furnace out back.
So... You recycle it right? That's a tax reduction right there. Congratulations on being so green.

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Grant Hughes

NoCoast Wrote:
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>
> Oh, okay. And this used motor oil?
> Ah we just burn it in da furnace out back.

Thats what most shops do up here.
My house runs on fuel oil and wood heat during the (long) winter and I've contemplated converting my furnace into a waste oil burner. Only differences are better oil filters, a preheater, and some compressed air to help the waste oil burn better.

That's based off an experience at an auto parts store in Salem, MO. Walk in with a jug of used motor oil. Do you recycle oil here? That was his response. Have since found out that it's quite common actually.

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Grant Hughes

"This is sadly out of step with your "going green" initiative. Panning for gold increases sedimentation in the river and kills fish by suffocating their eggs with a layer of silt."


Mechanical dredging for gold is the culprit. Panning is way too labor intensive to create a death cloud of silt. Along these lines I've always thought we should ban winter/spring run off as it creates loads of silt.

I spent my summer gold panning and hiking. Turns out I was mostly searching out old mines and climbing mountains... didn't even cover the bottom of a small vile with gold, but lost 15 pounds and didn't have to cut back on beer!

Of course that kept me from developing the rally car... but I was really waiting for the big gold strike to fund it.

impfected Wrote:
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> I spent my summer gold panning and hiking. Turns
> out I was mostly searching out old mines and
> climbing mountains... didn't even cover the bottom
> of a small vile with gold, but lost 15 pounds and
> didn't have to cut back on beer!

Sweet. Any tips/resources for getting started?

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Grant Hughes

Search craigslist for gold prospecting/dredge/panning equipment. Stuff comes up weekly here and Washington is not a major gold state.
http://www.geocommunicator.gov use this to find active/inactive claims (also great topo maps)
And also lots of videos on youtube.

If you are planning gold prospecting, I recommend you rent a few DVD's of Deadwood to learn how to cus etc and take advantage of newly widowed women with good claims.

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In the long run reality always wins.

There's gold here in East TN. Thought about building a power dredger for placer deposits, but simply don't have time between family, work and rally. I did purchase a Powerball ticket tonight though.

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"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne

"Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain

Another nice aspect of prospecting is that you need to travel down gravel roads to get to the prime locations.
I'll need to design my cage to hold my sluice box and shovel.

you get enough gold grant, you can finally get that grill you've been talking about.

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-Mark
www.nocoastmotorsports.net