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Ozgur Simsek Mod Moderator Location: Brooklyn, NY Join Date: 06/07/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 561 Rally Car: working on a Veedub |
Here are some incars from RTN 09 of Paul and I in his RSX with the 6.33. I believe 4 stages we had 4th OA Stage times with Stockish suspension and 100% street tires. The first day we were getting use to each other. Second day we were rocking! Dont mind the butterfly! 
Dont mind the banner tape!
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> I am curious to see what J. Wimpey' s new Golf
> will end up weighing(our cage design is similar). Me too. The old car is 2340 with a full tank ready to rally and the only lightening we did was replacing the 3 rear windows with plastic. I think the new car will be a bit heavier--maybe 20lb extra tubing (most of the optional bars are 1" x 0.065"  plus an extra 70lb for the TDI motor, turbo, intercooler & trans. The exhaust will be lighter--no muffler. And other things will be lighter as well--no external fuel pump & accumulator etc..
Without getting too clever (i.e. things we should do eventually anyway), it would be easy to drop 100lbs or more from either car. Estimated weight savings in parentheses. --Tubular subframe (3-4lb but lots of increased strength and ability to build lighter skidplate frame). If anyone is interested in a tubular subframe for an mk2 or mk3 VW, contact me as these are being built right now. I know that several people have broken the stock ones near the control arms. --Trim excess sheetmetal and brackets from the body (5-10lb) --Custom motor mounts (3-5lb) --Re-engineered skidplate & frame that doesn't weigh 75lb+ (25lb) --Fabricate an aluminum radiator support (might have to do this anyway) (3-5lb) --Gut the dash and excess portions of the heater system (3-8lb) --Aluminum seat mounts instead of steel (3-5lb) --Mildly Gut the bumper(s) (10lb) --Replace factory exhaust manifold on the 16v with a tubular header (2-4lb) --Remove evaporative emissions controls--charcoal canister & related (2-5lb) --Remove vacuum brake booster & replumb (2-5lb depending on the replacement configuration) --Remove rain gutters--ugly--(3lb) --Remove rear spoiler (1lb) More expensive things to reduce weight: --Gut the doors and add FIA style Al & Carbon impact panels (This might require a waiver of some sort) (10-15lb each) --Fiberglass hood & hatch (25lb hood 10lb hatch) --Fiberglass fenders (5lb) --6 to 8 gallon fuel cell ---it is a TDI (5-10lb plus ~7lb gallon for fuel so another 30-35lb at full capacity) --Lightweight hardware--remove, shorten, or replace with lighter fasteners wherever practical (10lb) --Tiny carbon mirrors (2lb) --Lightweight pulleys (2lb) --Lightweight flywheel (5lb) --Magnesium wheels (30lb+) --Fancy 2 piece rotors (5-10lb) --Fancy brake calipers (5-10lb) Things I won't do to reduce weight: --Replace front windows with plastic & sliders (20lb including power window regulators, glass, tracks & rubber seals) ____________________________________________________________- One. Class -- 2WD www.quantumrallysport.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Quantum-Rally-Sport/281129179600?ref=nf Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2009 11:19AM by Josh Wimpey. |
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Josh Wimpey Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > --Gut the doors and add FIA style Al & Carbon > impact panels (This might require a waiver of some > sort) I dont think you'd need a waiver, the RA rules say: "if the original [door] structure has been removed or altered, either a door panel that is compliant with FIA drawing 255-14 must be installed or the safety cage must include a sill bar plus 2 continuous door bars containing four vertical studs." I attached the mentioned drawing for fun. My golf was like 2450 with nothing other than the interior out of it, that was with tube frame seats and a big 1/8" steel skid plate over the gas tank too. I hope I can get the volvo down to something reasonably close to the 2535 lbs weight limit without getting nuts with the 3L in it. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2009 11:29AM by Carl S. |
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