So, I know everyone has likely kicked the shit out of this dead horse before, but here goes.

I am a cheap motha...and I can barely keep my existing fleet of crap running, but I need a sevice vehicle.

So, I see things like 94 GM uHaul box trucks with gas 454's for $1500. 94 diesel uhaul box trucks for $2500, newer 6cyl vans for $2500.

I'd like to spend less than $3000...function is more important than looks...and mileage would be awesome.

Does anyone tow with a 6cyl?

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She's screamn' fer eet!
Rallyho
Mike White
http://www.facebook.com/rallyhomotorsports

Never buy, always rent, cheaper unless you're doing 6 events a year for 10 years. (for pulling a trailer)

If you're true to your cheapskateness, get a tow dolly (or better, rent one) and pull it behind a tiny truck or SUV.

For every combination you consider, say out loud "Zimmer tows his Subaru Impreza to events WITH a Subaru Impreza". And that f-er has done more rallies than all of us combined. So if you want to go rally, you're going to have to be super-pro before you need more than he had.

Anders

(Sold my trailer last week, selling van next, driving to events now!)

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.

And the thing everyone fails to mention is that Randy's tow Impreza isn't exactly stock. Nor is it particularly wise, towing 4000' behind 3000' on a ballhitch.

Macho, yes. Possible, yes. Smart? Not really.

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Self-righteous douche canoe

Two reasons not to rent:

1) events in Canuckistan may be a little more difficult to deal with at the border in a pile of things that say U-Haul or have rental documents saying VEHICLE CANNOT LEAVE UNITED STATES. Living in Northern New England, you have four Canadian nationals within a day's tow (although Pines and Perce Neige are pushing it from Mike's place), several more regionals if you can decipher French.

2) Where is Mike going to sleep when those other two Saab 99 project cars arrive later this month?

OK, a third reason, this thing is likely going to serve as Mike's garage for a while.

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY

Buy this 92 Suburban I have here with FULL towing package---everything, even the AC works, 1200 miles on new tires, and 89,000 miles.. But its a wee bit more but nice...

Too nice maybe...
bear in mind that I drove the green 96s the length of I-90 in 3 days and 3 hours solo
So can't wine it's TOOOOOOO FAR AWAY whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I mean are you from Maine or a whining Masshole?


Maybe tow back---agree about the dolly thing---a nice rust free Xratty for Tavarich Andriy up in Ontatiostan, make some dough toward the gas...


DO IT!!!


( I got it after it sat when my dad died 5 years ago, and for the last 5 years he wasn't driving a lot...previously it pulled a 30 something foot Airstream, ALL reciepts are there----->

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

We rented a 2010 Uhaul 6cylinder F150 and trailer, drove up to Tall Pines in it. The thing was pretty smooth, got decent gas mileage (12.5mpg) and dont remember seeing anything in the contract nor did the rental place not allow it. I typically tow with my 4lt 6cyl. 4runner and am happy with it. Two complaints: Eats brakes/rotors fastish and I end up putting well over 20K miles on it.

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rally gods would turn in their graves if they ever knew Lada's were now part of EU rallying!!!

You have a good number for LEE!!!????

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Get at least a heavy half ton PU or 3/4 ton van. Vans are pretty cheap used. A small V-8 will work but a mid sized 350 or 360 cu inch is a good compromise.

Towing with too small a rig is no smarter than welding over brake kleen. Not only do you not have room for spares or crew but it is stressful and dangerous. If you are ever involved in a wreck the attorneys will own your miserable hide whether you are at fault or not.

heymagic Wrote:
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> Get at least a heavy half ton PU or 3/4 ton van.
> Vans are pretty cheap used. A small V-8 will work
> but a mid sized 350 or 360 cu inch is a good
> compromise.
>
> Towing with too small a rig is no smarter than
> welding over brake kleen. Not only do you not have
> room for spares or crew but it is stressful and
> dangerous. If you are ever involved in a wreck the
> attorneys will own your miserable hide whether you
> are at fault or not.

Oh, so you agree that Mike should this heavy duty everything, low miles Sub-a-burb-an.

Goo then it's decided. Thanks.
When you coming to get it Mike?

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

>
> Oh, so you agree that Mike should this heavy duty
> everything, low miles Sub-a-burb-an.
>
> Goo then it's decided. Thanks.
> When you coming to get it Mike?
>

Bwhahahahahaha!!!

Less than $200 airfare on JetBlue either Maine or Boston to SeaTac, mere minutes from JVAB world headquarters!!!

OF course, we should see pictures of this cream puff first...

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY

fiasco Wrote:
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> > >
> > Oh, so you agree that Mike should this heavy
> duty
> > everything, low miles Sub-a-burb-an.
> >
> > Goo then it's decided. Thanks.
> > When you coming to get it Mike?
> >
>
> Bwhahahahahaha!!!
>
> Less than $200 airfare on JetBlue either Maine or
> Boston to SeaTac, mere minutes from JVAB world
> headquarters!!!
>
> OF course, we should see pictures of this cream
> puff first...


But of course. I'll post 'em up shortly.
>
> Andrew Steere
> Lyndeborough, NH
> KB1PJY

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

YES !!! A Suburban is a great choice. I towed 8,000lbs of SeaRay with a 1/2ton 1976 Suburban and we have a 1999 'Burb for a shop vehicle and Brent to pull his race car with now.

Bwahaha. I should talk to you sometime about pulling a SeaRay Sundancer 260 with an F150. All was well until the boat + trailer started dragging the truck backwards down a hill. Surge brakes don't work going that direction, see.

That was the most clenching moment I ever had in a vehicle until Lars and I went off at OTR last year.

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Self-righteous douche canoe

john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> You have a good number for LEE!!!????
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.rallyrace.net/jvab
> CALL +1 206 431-9696
> Remember! Pacific Standard Time
> is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.


I will PM it to you

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rally gods would turn in their graves if they ever knew Lada's were now part of EU rallying!!!

hoche Wrote:
> Nor is it
> particularly wise, towing 4000' behind 3000' on a
> ballhitch.
>
> Macho, yes. Possible, yes. Smart? Not really.

There is, of course, nearly no limit to this line of reasoning.

"You tow a trailer behind a mid size pickup? That's crazy, I use a Suburban. You need more mass."

"You tow a trailer behind a Suburban? That's crazy, I use a 3/4 ton diesel. You need more mass."

"You tow a trailer behind a 3/4 ton on a hitch? That's crazy, I use a dually fifth wheel. You need more mass."

"You tow with a dually? That's crazy, I use a motor home. You need more mass."

"You tow with a motor home? That's crazy, I use a tractor trailer. You need more mass."

Every one of the above has been use to justify equipment purchases in this sport.

Cheers,
Anders

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2010 06:19AM by Anders Green.