French Peugeot 205 Kit car taking a BEATING

Sounded ok to me, the little shhets of paper hanging on the right side dash look fairly consitant, but the drivers helmet movement does look odd in some shots. It could have some 'enhancement' but certainly not the old Hollywood style. Any chance it was from changing media formats or whatever they do without actual tape? Either way the guy is fun to watch and faster than I ever was ! I think he has at least 5 first gears, what a great transmission. So what do you suppose he has under the hood?

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Sounded ok to me, the little shhets of paper hanging on the right side dash look fairly consitant, but the drivers helmet movement does look odd in some shots. It could have some 'enhancement' but certainly not the old Hollywood style. Any chance it was from changing media formats or whatever they do without actual tape? Either way the guy is fun to watch and faster than I ever was ! I think he has at least 5 first gears, what a great transmission. So what do you suppose he has under the hood?

Since it says 205 Kit Car/Maxi F2000, I'm pretty certain its the Peugeot XU10J4RS out of a 306 GTi. 167 bhp to begin with, a very well flowing head, and basically a lot of potential.
If it's built all out like the 306 Maxi's then he has in excess of 250 hp. 306 Maxi Evo 2 had over 300.
Around 200 horsies can be done with cams and mild port work on those engines, and still be very streetable. Basically it's like most of the good 2.0 16V's from the nineties :-).

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Brian

Speaking of sick frenchies in Peugeot's:




We actually also have a danish guy in a 205 Maxi - but running the original - though heavily modified XU5 engine that the 205 GTi came with first. It's a 1.6 8V, all aluminium (or aluminum as you guys say), wet liners, very revvy.
Kenneths is fitted with ITBs, a lot of headwork, a Sadev sequential tranny etc. - he does pretty well too with its 196 bhp.

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Old Panizzi has really got that car by the scruff of the neck! Some of the those roads are very wet. It looks like there was standing water and mud toward the end of the stage. Impressive.

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Old Panizzi has really got that car by the scruff of the neck! Some of the those roads are very wet. It looks like there was standing water and mud toward the end of the stage. Impressive.

I think he speeded up the film.
Listen to the motor!
look at the cow-puckies quivering as they drove by!
They were quivering different!.

Mainly because I don't feel much like working (on work) today...

http://www.sportautobauges.com/dernier.html

On 10/10, the Arith stage was run 3 times - SS4,6,8. Dommerdich/Boretti ran: 3:23.2, 3:20.4, and 3:20.8.

Timing it based on the video, I come out with 3:20.41

I'll vote for the first stage not being sped up. the second stage was SS5/7, so somebody else can waste their own time on that.

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Aaron Luptak
Mainly because I don't feel much like working (on work) today...

http://www.sportautobauges.com/dernier.html

On 10/10, the Arith stage was run 3 times - SS4,6,8. Dommerdich/Boretti ran: 3:23.2, 3:20.4, and 3:20.8.

Timing it based on the video, I come out with 3:20.41

I'll vote for the first stage not being sped up. the second stage was SS5/7, so somebody else can waste their own time on that.

(Pssssssssssst! if you want my opinion----IF---- I think people are simply forgetting that some people have built really good cars and some people can drive HARD. Thy are probably forgetting because we've all been lulled by a decade of basically barely GpN level cars driven only moderately hard on simple straight--ish fast roads and you get used to watching lazy driving.

Now asphalt has never been in the least interesting to me BECAUSE I SEE 99% simple road race and worse, parking lot cone-murdering stuff averaging maybe 25-30 mph, but THIS stuff is wicked.

I do know from the french magazines like Echappement and others that Regional level events are contested pretty intensely, and French championship level stuff has always been a very high level of prep, support and driving. Important and rewarding enough that many are content to shoot for Championat de France as their goal.
The guy in the vids shows what French Championship level driving is: enough harder and faster that some refuse to believe it isn't sped up-----like Rally America prodcuctions are.

As Wildert says, wisely as always, videos usually make things seem slower, and i say "You guys ought to see this type of thing in person".
You'd sheet the bed. (I know I about shat myself watching Pavel Sibera and Emil Triner in their little 1,3l Skodas on skinny ass roads like these in WRC Monte '93---and this car is a lot wickeder-er than the little Favorits. A LOT

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Mainly because I don't feel much like working (on work) today...

http://www.sportautobauges.com/dernier.html

On 10/10, the Arith stage was run 3 times - SS4,6,8. Dommerdich/Boretti ran: 3:23.2, 3:20.4, and 3:20.8.

Timing it based on the video, I come out with 3:20.41

I'll vote for the first stage not being sped up. the second stage was SS5/7, so somebody else can waste their own time on that.

I kinda think that settles the discussion :-).

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Some serious sphincter clenching moments on both of those stages!

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Sofa King
Yep, he's fast.
But a wide-angle lens with the camera mounted closer to the windshield helps the perception of speed.

Preach it.

Boring in car video has the standard 90 degree or worse lens, mounted low, so all you see is dashboard and landscape. No motion on screen. That's not what the driver sees, people have a wider field of vision and they (usually) aren't sitting with their head on the parcel shelf. I like a 150 or 180 degree lens ($12-15 in a brick and mortar store) and mount the camera to the roof behind the seats. This way, you can actually see the stuff in front of and around the car.

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Sofa King
Yep, he's fast.
But a wide-angle lens with the camera mounted closer to the windshield helps the perception of speed.

Preach it.

Boring in car video has the standard 90 degree or worse lens, mounted low, so all you see is dashboard and landscape. No motion on screen. That's not what the driver sees, people have a wider field of vision and they (usually) aren't sitting with their head on the parcel shelf. I like a 150 or 180 degree lens ($12-15 in a brick and mortar store) and mount the camera to the roof behind the seats. This way, you can actually see the stuff in front of and around the car.

Now if all of that were to feature 5.1 surround??? i would buy a big ass tv and rally from the couch every friday night, and bank more stage miles then most would see in a year. cheaper.

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Pete
I like a 150 or 180 degree lens ($12-15 in a brick and mortar store) and mount the camera to the roof behind the seats. This way, you can actually see the stuff in front of and around the car.

I need to get me a cam, got any good advices?

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Pete
I like a 150 or 180 degree lens ($12-15 in a brick and mortar store) and mount the camera to the roof behind the seats. This way, you can actually see the stuff in front of and around the car.

I need to get me a cam, got any good advices?

Read this thread...

http://forums.corner-carvers.com/showthread.php?t=26173

May help...

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