Grassroots Rally Groupies

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wvonkessler

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john vanlandingham
Is there no BMW that look like with normal mods couldn't deliver enough power when combined with appropriate gear, like 5.1?

I had considered trying to drop a stock Evo IX motor in it when I first got started since I had one sitting in the garage, and LS1 swaps are pretty straightforward, but Rally America won't let those swaps race, so that was the end of that.

Dave

You know RA changed the rules, don't you? Now you can drop in anything you want.

I know NASA removed it, but don't recall RA changing it. Unless I'm mis-reading the rules, it sure seems like they haven't changed it:

10.2 Class Rules
  A. Open Category (includes classes Open, Open Light, G2, G5)
    2. The engine is unrestricted, but must be derived (at least the engine
       block) from a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.
    9. Group 2 Class: Vehicles must be 2WD, normally aspirated and
       derived from models sold globally in minimum quantities of 1000.
      a. The engine is unrestricted; with the following exceptions, no
         forced induction; must be derived (at least the engine block) from
         a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.

Pretty sure that 10.2.A.2 applies to all the open category classes.

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mothra
Nice video Wilson.

Matt:

Hooper sure can pedal a car. New nickname is "Dances with Roads." If our Michelin slicks hadn't self destructed (they were three year old takeoffs from an Irish team - lesson learned (for the second time - first was running 13 year old NOS Bridgestone Potenzas at SB a few years ago that blew up on the first stage)), I think we would have been in the running for 1st instead of 4th on day 2. We were literally running on two different kinds of street tires.

See you at WV?

That is the plan. Not sure what capacity yet but planning to put the XR on those WV roads.

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Aaron Luptak

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wvonkessler

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DaveK

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john vanlandingham
Is there no BMW that look like with normal mods couldn't deliver enough power when combined with appropriate gear, like 5.1?

I had considered trying to drop a stock Evo IX motor in it when I first got started since I had one sitting in the garage, and LS1 swaps are pretty straightforward, but Rally America won't let those swaps race, so that was the end of that.

Dave

You know RA changed the rules, don't you? Now you can drop in anything you want.

I know NASA removed it, but don't recall RA changing it. Unless I'm mis-reading the rules, it sure seems like they haven't changed it:

10.2 Class Rules
  A. Open Category (includes classes Open, Open Light, G2, G5)
    2. The engine is unrestricted, but must be derived (at least the engine
       block) from a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.
    9. Group 2 Class: Vehicles must be 2WD, normally aspirated and
       derived from models sold globally in minimum quantities of 1000.
      a. The engine is unrestricted; with the following exceptions, no
         forced induction; must be derived (at least the engine block) from
         a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.

Pretty sure that 10.2.A.2 applies to all the open category classes.

Oh well, stand corrected. I swear I saw somewhere that they had punted that rule.

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wvonkessler
You know RA changed the rules, don't you? Now you can drop in anything you want.

I even went so far as to dig up the manufacturer relationships diagrams and tried to link BMW to Mitsubishi through GM, but Mike Hurst politely said it was a no go as far as Rally America was concerned. Unsure if that might have changed for the GRC events, but I'd like a car that's legal to run a bunch of places...so heavy 6-cyl that allows me to run in Group2 or Group5 (w/turbo or sc) seemed to make the most sense.

Dave

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DaveK
I even went so far as to dig up the manufacturer relationships diagrams and tried to link BMW to Mitsubishi through GM, but Mike Hurst politely said it was a no go as far as Rally America was concerned. Unsure if that might have changed for the GRC events, but I'd like a car that's legal to run a bunch of places...so heavy 6-cyl that allows me to run in Group2 or Group5 (w/turbo or sc) seemed to make the most sense.

By the by, Dave, Mitsubishi does run VW/Audi lumps in the EU, so maybe there's still some hope after all.

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DR1665

By the by, Dave, Mitsubishi does run VW/Audi lumps in the EU, so maybe there's still some hope after all.

Really? which vehicles/motor?

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wvonkessler

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Aaron Luptak

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wvonkessler

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DaveK

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john vanlandingham
Is there no BMW that look like with normal mods couldn't deliver enough power when combined with appropriate gear, like 5.1?

I had considered trying to drop a stock Evo IX motor in it when I first got started since I had one sitting in the garage, and LS1 swaps are pretty straightforward, but Rally America won't let those swaps race, so that was the end of that.

Dave

You know RA changed the rules, don't you? Now you can drop in anything you want.

I know NASA removed it, but don't recall RA changing it. Unless I'm mis-reading the rules, it sure seems like they haven't changed it:

10.2 Class Rules
  A. Open Category (includes classes Open, Open Light, G2, G5)
    2. The engine is unrestricted, but must be derived (at least the engine
       block) from a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.
    9. Group 2 Class: Vehicles must be 2WD, normally aspirated and
       derived from models sold globally in minimum quantities of 1000.
      a. The engine is unrestricted; with the following exceptions, no
         forced induction; must be derived (at least the engine block) from
         a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle.

Pretty sure that 10.2.A.2 applies to all the open category classes.

Oh well, stand corrected. I swear I saw somewhere that they had punted that rule.

i think the rule that changed was limiting the location of the motor. i think.

it's a simple point of points.

if you want points in any kind of RA series, then keep your make of motor, if you don't give a flying rats ass like myself, run what you can build.

the simple answer is, they will not turn you away from a rally because you built some freak show, just make it safe.

the reason i know, i asked the man himself.

http://www.rally-america.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2750

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2011 07:40PM by mellow65.

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I prefer topless rally groupies to ones holding video cameras. Of course, I think you have to go to Quebec to find the ones that you want to be on the side of the road topless. Back woods Tennessee maybe not so much.

In TN they have most often been spotted at the awards party around 2 or 3 am.

Anders

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