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looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 04:23PM
Hey everyone I am building a drift car and was told by a friend to get a rack and pinion unit from a volvo 240. I dont know the exact year but it has to be manual, have an aluminum core/case, and the total travel should be around 18cm. Also I'm looking for a 90 degree rotating steering gear box to mount to it so it clears my crossmember. Any help would be greatly apreciated.
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 04:38PM
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Hey everyone I am building a drift car and was told by a friend to get a rack and pinion unit from a volvo 240. I dont know the exact year but it has to be manual, have an aluminum core/case, and the total travel should be around 18cm. Also I'm looking for a 90 degree rotating steering gear box to mount to it so it clears my crossmember. Any help would be greatly apreciated.

Where are you at?
What car, and what's your name?



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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 04:52PM
I am in georgia. The rack and pinion unit is going to be fit into my 1980 camaro, it seems to be the only one I can get enough travel out of. My name is Rex
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 06:22PM
Have you seen this??

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?8,41104



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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 06:55PM
Put up a post in the "wanted" section of turbobricks.com, they will be climbing over eachother to sell you one.
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 07:16PM
I posted up a wanted add at turbobricks. Thanks for the headsup
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 08:05PM
Your arms are going to get hella tired, those racks suck, even for drag racing. On the other hand, someone on turbobricks had a batch of quicksteer gears made for those racks, for what its worth...that would just make your arms tireder.
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 08:20PM
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Your arms are going to get hella tired, those racks suck, even for drag racing. On the other hand, someone on turbobricks had a batch of quicksteer gears made for those racks, for what its worth...that would just make your arms tireder.

[Marvin's voice on] (Groan) Kids, how quickly they forget.

Let's see if Al can help Rex by circuitous route of questions.

a) say Al, what's other 2.3 car that your beloved co-driver likes?

b) and why, if its found on the road dead, and often very neglected,, even a bit ratty, does your beloved co-driver like 'em?

c) which is less 3.75 or 2.65 turns lock to lock?

d) if Al's rack moves 55mm per turn of the pinion, and his beloved co-driver's rack moves 64mm, how many more meters is Al yanking at the wheel in a mile of Special Stage

e) if both racks are made by ZF, have the same travel, same M14 threads on the tie rods and are within 10mm of the same rack width, why would somebody even bother to shit on the one rack---instead of fondling and "Jac-rack" off the other.



Jac-rac even has a 1-800 number... now is it painfully obvious (groan) which rack he should have on his car? And even you on yours?[/end Marvin's voice]

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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 09:36PM
Yeahbut....

this here dude said specifically "I don't know what year, but it has to be manual"

If he had said powah, I would have sent him one of the ones in the pile over there for the price of shipping, but yeah, do a murkur one!

Those manual racks that came in the early 240 are grim. The idea of flicking around a big v8 car with one sounds "heroic" to me.
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 09:44PM
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Yeahbut....

this here dude said specifically "I don't know what year, but it has to be manual"

If he had said powah, I would have sent him one of the ones in the pile over there for the price of shipping, but yeah, do a murkur one!

Those manual racks that came in the early 240 are grim. The idea of flicking around a big v8 car with one sounds "heroic" to me.

Faawk I didn't read that and in any case its flat foolish and I can't be troubled with flat foolish shit like manual quick rack on a drift Camaro.
He is mistaken. It needs to be power.

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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 01, 2011 10:05PM
Manual rack works fine in a drift car. The car does all the work when set up properly, you just initiate the drift and let go of the wheel, then grab it and arrest the slide. Easy as pie. The more turns lock to lock the better.
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 02, 2011 06:16AM
aight guys heres the reason I need that rack. It's the only one I know of that I can get enough travel out of. I think they come with about 18cm of travel but can be lengthened another 10cm which is what I need out of it, a total of 28cm total travel. I was also planning on using it with an electric power steering setup since I'm not sure if I can route/use the power steering rack with a gm ps pump.
If yall know of a better rack for my setup feel free to lay down the knowledge
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 02, 2011 10:58AM
Well if you have pictures of one installed and it works for them, you are in good shape. Don't listen to me, I know nothing about drift cars, except they look funnywinking smiley I saw Mr. Redwoodchair pointed you to FPC, which is the place to go. Small world effect; Redwoodchair was here earlier this week, he picked up a steering rack (power) and a load of redwood boards to make chairs out of!
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 03, 2011 11:49AM
Can anyone tell me who the member is here that is distributing the quick rack internals for the 240?
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Re: looking for volvo 240 rack and pinion
June 03, 2011 12:50PM
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Can anyone tell me who the member is here that is distributing the quick rack internals for the 240?

There was a short run some 4-5 years ago of 2.5 turn internals for ONE of the various manual racks.
I say forget it because simply finding manual rack cores is hard enough mucvh less the specific core with the xxmm diameter pinion shaft.
20 years ago I got screwed over by a huge asshole named Greg L**d who since he was a know it all and had friends who were bigger know it alls DID NOT LISTEN WHEN I SAID "DO NOT GET YOUR CORE UNTIL THE QUICK RACK KIT ARRIVES AND WE SEE WHICH CORE YOU NEED".

Being "smrater" than the average slime mold he argued "IO talked to some guys who know and they said...blah blah"


When the rack guts arrived with the 19mm spline, he refused to pay for it AND previous airfreight for several hundred bucks "because you got the wrong things".
Fawkin idiot and a thief.

What's the point of this: WHY waste time looking for some totally obscure, probably impossible to find thing when you could stick in a nice 2.6 turn Xratty rack?
2.5 vs 2.6,
difficult to even find a core vs pick up the phone and call 1-800 Jac-rack and have it in a few days?



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