Sooper B Suspensions at Black Bear

JOHN DIDN'T EVEN START THIS FOOKING THREAD!!!!

Good gawd, you's guys need to lose the attitude problems....

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john vanlandingham
Billy, I don't know you. But I'll say this, Morrison the Trolls standard line; what did YOU do at this event? Hows your Honda doing?
As far as i know IAN's car is ticking along something like Sean's Xratty was doing: rally, wash. Rally, wash, rally , wash, rally wash.
He's in Norfolk, VA in the Navy now, car is in Michigan. Not a lot of time to drive in between, not a lot of time to tinker..

Maybe he's trying to pile up some miles, ya know? thinking long term??

You want to shit all over somebody who actually went to the event and drove their car?
Isn't that what we have our beloved Special Stage for?
The home of the armchair rally-hero?

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My Honda is fine.

Good!

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Last event I finished first overall (was 6 minutes ahead of 2nd place 2WD car) for day 1's event.

Whoa! Why didn't we see that all over the gawddam Intra-webs?
Man, that's great! I love it when 2wd cars trounce every single turbo 4wd car and wins Overall.... I used to regularly beat all but a few turbo 4wd cars and do top 10 overall and set some top 5 Overall stage times, but winning an event Overall.
Now I can see why you feel you can shit all over Ian's results.

Sorta a shame you didn't link to the result so the rest of us could pull apart the lame ass results of all those Sububitchis and Misterburus who you beat with your Honda.
Man, I bet they were gnashing their teeth....

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Started the second day and hit a tree so I'm in the process of finding a donor shell to get parts for the repair. I'm sure you'll blame my crash on my Hot Bits or something?

Sucks big time. My friend Sean hit one out here and it took days, at least 6-7 before he was given another shell. Of course he knows driving an obscure car like an Xratty means that shells are just growing on trees. I mean I only have one extra donor car cause i can't be without my street Xratty or wifeys Xratty.

And all blame goes to the person opening and closing the throttle.

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Don't know if Ian would like you speaking for him on how he's driving the car.

I'll ask him. Of course, it's alright you ranting on how lame his results were, and I'm sure you checked with him first right?

Are you a conservative Republican? You talk like one.

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He's got Ryan at TRF to do all the tinkering on his car. When's Ian's next event? If he's running LSPR as his next, we're both on track for the same ammount of events this year.

Looks like the guys is doing a good job.
I wonder where Ian got his engine, engine management, 48 ITBs, suspension, bellhousing, clutch, indeed the whole spec and parts list for the car?

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I'm not shitting on Ian for the event, let alone for finishing.

OH! I didn't know, come on, on line tone is so lacking. See, I thought you and the Resident Troll were shitting all over it. I mean it sure looked that way from here.

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Sure, I got last place on 2nd day at Rally TN for crashing. Shit happens in rally and when you're pushing you have a higher chance of things to bite you. I get a chuckle when someone else said his result and class win is from running JVAB stuff, when he's on Hot Bits suspension.

Well that's news to me. I wonder why he did that? Seems to have gotten hard to contact since he moved to Virginia.

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I didn't push to promote my Rally TN results, since it was the same weekend Marker had his crash in WA. I felt that the weekend's events weren't something to push away in a "screw him, look at me I won a rally" kind of way. I only posted stuff in event threads and put a few pictures of my car's carnage. I gave respect for him, a fellow Michigander at that. That's at least my opinion on that.

What difference does it make if JVL started it or not? He said the same thing he would say if he did start the thread?

If someone posted this thread with the title "Sooper bitchin VW's" and then the body of the thread had a results link to a 1st in a class of 1 and said "VW's must be working this weekend" does anyone think JVL would still be saying all the things he is saying defending VW's?

Of course not. He would have the same criticisms that all the supposed trolls with attitudes have on this thread.



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Bullshit. Search for anything John said about the Wimpey's running his stuff.
There's possibly more VW's on JVAB suspension than Volvos. VW's can make pretty damn good rally cars. There best for people who like to work on them alot though. They are not a rally, wash, change oil, rally, wash, repeat cars.

Billy - There wasn't many people at TN this year, but your stage times were close to Josh's from last year. Good job and great result. Get the car ready for NEFR or LSPR.

Keith - Your best finishes have always been due to a lack of any depth of field. PGT and SP have always lacked decent competition except a few select people (MJ, Piotr, Verdier) until just recently. Second place in 07 at Oregon Trail and you guys were a mere 2 minutes down from Verdier. Chomping at his bit. I bet he really had to try to keep you guys behind him there at the end. Only 11.5 minutes slower than the leader. No offense to Norm, but that's the same kinda shit your saying...

Geez Dave-

The real sacrilege here is your slight to:

Ferdinand Trauttmansdorff

(Ferd T. indeed)

Perhaps the longest co-driver name in North America !

I hope he gets a volume discount on his name decals...............

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NGTD
Seems like they were working this weekend:

1st Group 5 Martin Walter/ Ferd T.

1st Group 2 Ian Topping / Jeff Secor

BTW, Martin and Ferd took 19.6s off the AWD car that ran immediately ahead of them on the last stage (A8) and had the 3rd fastest time on that stage! The stage was just under 20km so that is approx. 1s per km.

http://www.mlrc.ca/blackbear/results/BlackBear2011Press0.htm

press on,

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just a poor, dumb, Michigan navie

Can we have a little less of this:





And a little more of this, please?

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jimmy
Ferdinand Trauttmansdorff

I've heard that is the shortened version too.

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NoCoast

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jimmy
Ferdinand Trauttmansdorff

I've heard that is the shortened version too.

Let's see Trautmansdorf, or on the window:
F. Trautmansdorf

I think there was some co-driver in the PNW who was

J. Vanlandingham I think it was

Lets compare:
F. Trautmansdorf
J. Vanlandingham

And that is the shortened version. It was
Juan Ricardo Vanlandingham-Gonzalez

Ha!

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

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NoCoast
Keith - Your best finishes have always been due to a lack of any depth of field. PGT and SP have always lacked decent competition except a few select people (MJ, Piotr, Verdier) until just recently. Second place in 07 at Oregon Trail and you guys were a mere 2 minutes down from Verdier. Chomping at his bit. I bet he really had to try to keep you guys behind him there at the end. Only 11.5 minutes slower than the leader. No offense to Norm, but that's the same kinda shit your saying...

But it isn't.
Context is your friend and to understand the results you have to look deeper than the 'final' results.

11m slower than the leader - yup, about 6 sec/mile or under 4 sec/k which is about the right gap between open and PGT.

2m behind Verdier - yup, and about 2 minutes ahead of 3rd place... at some point we would have accepted the overall position and run clean... but in this case we started the last two stages without 2nd and 3rd in the gearbox. If you look at individual stage times you'll see we beat verdier more than once, and on the 'real' stages not the PIR showcase stages. At the end of the day we were about .8 sec/mile off Verdier's pace which was within a fraction of Gubleman in a GrN car with bang and the 'right' gear ratios!

You also don't see me pointing to the last stage of Oregon 2006 where we were just 1.7 sec from an outright win on the stage. That's because IN CONTEXT the result is skewed. We were running hard and having a good, fun battle with Tanner while the top of the field was settled into solid gaps heading into the last 10mi stage. They backed off and we didn't and that's the only reason for that stage result.

Before I made the comments about Ian's pace I did take the time to look for a particularly bad stage that might have thrown off the final result.

You do it all the time Keith.

PS> You don't see me pointing to 2006 Oregon Trail cause then I'd have to point out that the car I was codriving in was only 0.2 seconds from the outright win on one of the stages as well.

Just a bunch of bickering, you geezers take this interwebz way to srsly. No emoticon can express how i feel right now.

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jimmy
Geez Dave-

The real sacrilege here is your slight to:

Ferdinand Trauttmansdorff

(Ferd T. indeed)

Perhaps the longest co-driver name in North America !

I hope he gets a volume discount on his name decals...............

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NGTD
Seems like they were working this weekend:

1st Group 5 Martin Walter/ Ferd T.

1st Group 2 Ian Topping / Jeff Secor

BTW, Martin and Ferd took 19.6s off the AWD car that ran immediately ahead of them on the last stage (A8) and had the 3rd fastest time on that stage! The stage was just under 20km so that is approx. 1s per km.

http://www.mlrc.ca/blackbear/results/BlackBear2011Press0.htm

press on,

Thanks Jimmy for the laugh! After reading this thread I was sorry I started it, but I got a good chuckle out of your post. What can I say, I am lazy and don't want to type out Ferdinand's whole name.

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NGTD
Martin and Ferd took 19.6s off the AWD car that ran immediately ahead of them on the last stage (A8) and had the 3rd fastest time on that stage!

We were actually 4th fastest on that last stage A8, after Leo, the Narinis, and Warren. See individual stage times here: http://www.mlrc.ca/blackbear/results/BlackBear2011LiveUpdate.htm

Still, we were really cookin' on that stage. I think that's by far the most 'committed' we've ever run any stage. We were feeling quite pleased with ourselves after that one.

As for taking time off the Mitsubishi Evo running ahead of us, I think Demetrios Andreou must have broken something on A5 because up until then they had been consistently 20-30 seconds quicker than Donnelly/Drake. But from A5 on it looks like they were bleeding time, with Donnelly nearly catching them for 5th overall on the last stage, finishing only 2.7 sec behind.

Big thumbs-up to Ian Topping / Jeff Secor for their win in G2. Reaching the finish in this tough rally (nobody else in G2 managed that) is in itself an accomplishment worth applauding. It's always good to see another RWD car out on the stages.

We were really sorry to see Sylvain Vincent go off in his Corolla GTS on only the first stage. We were very much looking forward to another tight battle with him. See stories and in-car videos of our previous match-up at the Lanark Highlands Forest Rally.

Peter Kocandrle is on another planet altogether. He is an immensely talented driver and I'd love to see him go head-to-head against Chris Duplessis someday. Our only goal with Peter was to see whether we could keep him from whupping us too badly (again). I know he was majorly disappointed to have his transmission fail, as I suspect he doesn't have buckets of money available to replace expensive bits like that.

We had some issues too. We're not at all confident on the Moccasin Lake stage A1 & A2. The notes don't flow well for us, the road is really tricky and inconsistent, and we've never felt at all comfortable on that stage.

And we had a flat tire on the Peanut A4. That sucked. We cut the sidewall open on the left rear tire at only about the halfway point through the rough portion of the Peanut with something like another 8km yet to go to the finish. We knew we'd lose a ton of time if we stopped to change it in the stage, so screw that let's keep going. The bugger is that, after we come out of the really rough stuff, the last 5+km is all REALLY fast wide open stuff, and we were worried the flat tire might come apart and the flailing tread might then tear off the suspension.

Martin pushed as hard as he dared and we made it to the finish of A4 choking on the tire smoke which filled the car with a time of 9:40.3, losing only 28.2 seconds compared to our second pass on the Peanut A7 of 9:12.1.

The whole last loop of A6, A7, A8 was awesome with Martin shovelling all the coal into the boilers. A8 was especially satisfying. I'll post up some video when I get it processed and uploaded.

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john vanlandingham
Lets compare:
F. Trautmansdorf
J. Vanlandingham

Who's using my name in vain, and misspelling it in the process?

F. Trauttmansdorff
J. Vanlandingham

Ha!

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john vanlandingham
And that is the shortened version. It was
Juan Ricardo Vanlandingham-Gonzalez

Ha!

Juan Ricardo Vanlandingham-Gonzalez
Ferdinand Trauttmansdorff-Weinsberg

If you need to count the spaces between your names, then at best it's a tie. But if we're going by the volume of space between the ears, then I'll happily concede victory to you.