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Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 12:51PM
Some reason for no news, everybody get arrested in a cat-house for excessive partying?

Any cars other than Subies?

Did anybody win?
Flip?



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 03:07PM
Looks like results are here:
http://www.rallydata.com/Results/NorthNevada_2011_ClubScoreBoard.htm



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 04:24PM
paul eklund flipped 5 times.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 04:28PM
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paul eklund flipped 5 times.

Don't you have to be going fast to do that?confused smiley



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 09:50PM
Not if its over a small cliff/embankment.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 10, 2011 11:00PM
I heard Lyssand did too. Please let there be in-car. Please let there be in-car. Please let there be in-car. Please let there be in-car. Please let there be in-car.Please let there be in-car.



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 01:46AM
I know Paul doesn't have any in-car video, it was at night and nobody saw it happen. It sounded like a big wreck I'll see how much of the car is left in the morning.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 08:15AM
so i see a ton of DNFs...
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 10:58AM
Adam Crane's video is a fun watch - http://contour.com/stories/thatll-wash-out-nnr-2011-st14

High, high rate of attrition, only 5 cars actually finished both days IIRC, two of them were honduhs, three of them [the finishers] were 2wd... hot smiley

but, it's apparently two separate events, so we don't officially get to see a 2wd honder at the top of the leader board sad smiley

A few of the dnfs were big offs, but it seemed like a lot of them were non-running-into-things mechanicals - I heard the focus was overheating and generally having trouble running, others were having fueling issues. Some running-into-things mechanicals as well though - bent control arms, broken heim joints, etc.

From the ~4 miles I saw of the Purgatory stage I saw, pretty fantastic roads - but if each road is being run 4 times, 20 cars seems like it may be pretty close to the limit for the event before the roads start degrading really badly.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 12:31PM
it looks like a crazy fast stage design so i can see little mistakes costing big.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 02:23PM
I was one of the 5 to finish both days. if you stayed on the roads the entire time, your car would be fine. I did manage to tag a berm though, hehe

here's my SS recap:
I had an awesome rally as well. not much on stage drama at all though. I live in reno so this is my home town event, should make things super easy right??? .. uhm... d'oh

My drama started 3 days before the event, i had dropped off my rally car to my crew chief and some tires. the following day i was going to make an other trip to his house to drop off spares, well before i got out of work i got a text from him. "i'm on my way to the hospital" :O uh oh. he's okay, he got prescribed some anti-biotics and will be fine just needs some bed rest.

so i had to run to his house to pick up my rally car and my spares. Jeana and i decided to use her station wagon for a service vehicle since it has the most room. we packed up some spares from an other team, then out spares, and some spares into my rally car for additional room. Due to all the last minute change of plans i ended up driving out on my old set of rally tires, with 3 new ones freshly mounted, and a rim needing a left hand side tire.
during registration my crew got the tire from pauls crew. we left registration and i ran down to a tire shop to drop off the rim and tire. after recce on the way back to the HQ i picked up my 4th tire. i would have loved to put on the fresh tires, but i had to follow jake to the service location. jake drove the audi and i took the rally car, we dropped the service wagon off with about 22 minutes till the drivers meeting. we jammed back to town and got to the HQ with 1 minute to spare :O

why did i have to drop my service wagon off early? so jake was free to drive an other teams service rig. with the drivers meeting done, i gassed up my rally car and left for MTC out. Friday stages started and were a lot of fun. smooth twisty roads, up and down, blind crests, YEEE HAAW awesome stages. I wanted to hold back a little to make sure i made it to service where i had fresh tires waiting for me, and Saturday was the bigger day. So i went into 'drive for run mode' . was trailing to an other open lite team before service, changed tires and went out again. i actually hadn't looked at the scores at all so i didn't know where i was standings wise. Friday night we had horrible horrible dust, i had slightly worst dust at prescott last year, but this was really bad too. it would clear up a little and then go back to walls of dust. just no wind to help us.

a few teams had gone off, so i was glad to finish. the Rockhors had decided to call it a night after stage 6. (they got to play saturday so smart move)

After friday MTC in, we went back to the service (10 minutes away) and meet up with jake, billy and nick had arrived after the rally was done, and wanted to help out for tomorrow. we all drove back to fernely. we were going to get a hotel there, but with home only 30 minutes past i said screw it.

On new rally tires, and being a cheap bastard, i decided to leave my rally car at the loves gas station.. since we would be back in 7 hours i figured the chance that it would be towed / or ticketed was really low. got home, eat food, had a beer, fell asleep.

next day i was super eager to get back to my rally car, and yes it was still there.
made the final 60 minute drive to empire farms and did the recce laps. rally started and the day was an absolute blast.
so on the first stage, there's a corner where i nailed the berm hard last year... well this year, same corner i did the same thing.
i think its a 5L tights to 3 late. i just didn't slow down enough and slide into the berm (packed some dirt into my bead, and slide my camber bolt, giving me max negative camber ... like -3 or -4) lol . it didn't affect the handling much at all surprisingly (maybe i need to drive faster?) steering wheel was a little crooked, but hey.

stage after stage i just kept feeling that i was figuring out my car more and more. had such a great time. got Jeana laughing over the big jump, and some of the kicks.

think we ended up in 2nd saturday and probably 2nd overall, 1st awd car (yep lost to a 2wd) lol good job George!

hell of a rally. the roads are very smooth and very fun. I think with roads that good, they just beg you to try and push your luck, but most of the roads don't have much of a berm to keep you on the road if you slide off. once you're off its a nevada style Gamble as to what you get! lost time, epic roll overs, random rabbit ... tongue sticking out smiley

anyways thanks everyone, had a blast! sorry i had to leave early on the award party, had a false alarm at the home front, and Jeana and I ran back to make sure everything was alright.


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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 03:14PM
Here's the DNF breakdown:

Friday:

60 D. Rockrohr - withdrew because of dust
294 D. Rockrohr - withdrew because of dust
343 Moser - heater core broke, scalded codriver, coolant loss
21 Hetland - DNS, tech issue. joined at midpoint for "fun runs"
15 Wilson - gearbox
233 Eklund - rolled on SS6. Probably wouldn't have been so bad except that they fell off the road and down a hill. Not sure what caused it - haven't talked to him yet.
369 Willemsen - rolled on SS1. When I talked to him, he said he'd been having brake issues and had been concentrating on that and missed a call.
105 McMahon - fuel delivery


Saturday:

530 Lyssand - rolled on SS8. Came around a turn, got blinded by the sun. Went straight off at full speed.
313 Pihakari - time-barred. stuck on berm near finish of SS10, but sweep spent too much time getting 200 running and didn't get to her until 6 minutes after TB.
707 Hudson - fuel-delivery. They'd been having intermittent problems throughout the weekend and the car just finally gave up on them on SS7.
337 Lockhart - gearbox
200 Burke - I'll let him explain.
343 Moser - heater core by-pass failed, causing them to check in late on SS4, and start at the back of the pack. Caught car in front of them, couldn't see, stuffed it in the dust.
11 Turnbull - blown head gasket
21 Hetland - clipped rock, bent A-arm.



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 03:20PM
wow, thats a rather intense weekend.
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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 11, 2011 03:24PM
here's my off....its a long video, so FF to 11:00 if you don't want to watch the whole thing:

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150220995445964&oid=213428728700857&comments

I just set up for the corner too late, I should have adjusted the notes to turn on the crest, instead of just after it...maybe even downgraded to a 3 since it was downhill.

we taco'd the STI control arm and was able to swap that out, but then discovered that the 1) throttle cable sticking, and 2) something ELSE was messed up (either the CV joint, or bearings because we took it for a short test run after the a-arm swap and the tire was visibly moving, so we called it quits at that point.



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Re: Well? North Nevada News Needed Now
July 12, 2011 03:35AM
Hey John, I added a lot of words to CraneRallyCrew.com

the race was fun, even getting beat by Moser (while he was in) and Doginas.
as you watch some of the incar - you can see a lot of the DNFs from our point of view.

http://cranerallycrew.com/
We’d like to thank our friend in Reno for his hospitality,

Team Rally – for their help moving around Leviathan, our service rig during the event,

the Volunteers and Organizers, for letting us race.

here is a quick breakdown of the stages, and a link to the videos:

Stage 1 – Ragged Top – our first run on Nevada Roads, a 4.9 mile stage that runs uphill to a peak then back down. The car was getting warm, and I wasn’t sure of its temp limits, so I took it easy on the uphill. Some deciptive crests lead to a close call on the downhill.

Stage 2 – Copper Queen. Another up and down stage, 5.1mi long, this one is less technical and more wide open than the first. Very few crests or drop-offs.

Stage 3 – Ragged top II, a repeat of Stage 1, with the same tricky crests. I was more comfortable with the temp guage, so we kept it floored on the uphill.

Stage 4 is a repeat of stage 2. This video is fun because of the shadows being thrown by the low sun through the car onto the dashboard. Also look for one of our main competitors, Tom Moser in the VW Golf parked on a hill. His car overheated, and started leaking through the heatercore, leading to a very steamy cabin, with no visibility, then a quick stop. We set the 6th fastest time.

North Nevada Rally – Night stages 5, 6, 7,8. These are reverse runnings of stages 1-4, which were run in the afternoon. Since we had over an hour to service the cars, the sun had set, taking with it some of the breaze that was keeping the dust away. In my RWD car I found it very hard to set up for the corners when the entry is covered by dust, and my times reflect that.

Stage 9 – Wild Ass I. This was the first stage Saturday. Starting in a sandy open area along a foothill, then racing up and over a ridge. There was less elevation change than the other Saturday stage, Purgatory, but run this direction, it was mostly uphill. This one had some great dips and crests, with only two hairpin corners to interupt the flow. At 9.5 miles it’s the 3rd longest stage of the rally. By keeping it clean, and not worrying about overheating the car, I think we supprised the 2wd leader G. Doganis, by besting setting the fastest 2wd time. Look for the jump after the cattle guard in the middle of the stage. Also look for George’s fender liner, and tire tracks at a tricky left 3, before the final straights.

Purgatory, Stage 10. this 10.5 mile stage was the longest and most fun of the event. It has it all, fast straights, fun crests, cows, hairpins, rocks, uphill and downhills. You’ll have to watch it all. Starting on the flat pastures, with a series of straights with dips into hard corners, then past the cows, along the bottom of a ravine, through some gates, then up some loose tight steep hairpins and down the other side, just as steep. we did hesitate because of the engine temps on the uphill, but then so did everyone else. once again I was faster than George, raising my hopes of a 2wd win. Dust in the car and on the camera lens makes this video a little fuzzy, so check out stage 12 for a clearer view and faster time.

Stage 11 was a repeat of 9, George had caught on to my quick times, and beat me by 4 seconds. We improved by 5 seconds over our first pass. The video is more clear, which is nice because we took the jump a little quicker this time.

Purgatory II, I was on fire. Or it felt like it, it was hot out. We raced across the desert, flying over crests, and through gates. George put 12 seconds on us though, and I considered our pass faultless.

Stage 13, Purgatory East I, or hell backwards. The whole character of the stage changes when you flip it around. The initial climb is endless, my car was overheating even on the start line. It was a matter of putting to the top, and letting the momentum do the rest. The last third of the stage was a blast. Which is why I didn’t start the camera until we were on the downhill.

Stage 14 of the North Nevada Rally, Ass Wild I. We were excited to run some stages “down hill” and things were going great right until I heard my co-driver Britta whisper “exposure outside”. At that point we headed off the road to what we expected to be a nice roll, our first. Instead, after flinching pretty hard, we noticed that we had more racing to do, and headed down the wash on a 4wheeler track, untill finding a spot where we could regain the course. After waving at the Radio Marshal, we spead off into the last half of the stage laughing all the way – even more so after the huge jump!

Stage 15 a repeat of 13, we did better, the off on 14 seemed to loosen us up a bit. We beat George again, which felt nice. The setting sun, and shade on the last half also felt nice. Not nice was seeing Will and Ben on the side of the road after the first mile, their ecu couldn’t take the combo of heat, and uphill.

Stage 16, a repeat of 14, we were happy to still be in the rally. We took the jump easier, though we were spooked by Team Rally, the #530 Subaru, who rolled on the stage. The dust was still clearing as we came past them. I forgot to start the camera, so we have the last bit and not the first. If you think the sun is bright in our eyes, you’re not the only one.

RESULTS PAGE - http://www.rallydata.com/Results/NorthNevada_2011_ClubScoreBoard.htm

EVENT PAGE - http://www.northnevadarally.com/

VIDEOS = http://contour.com/search?page=1&q=NEVADA+RALLY&utf8=%E2%9C%93
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