Wild West an unsanctioned event?

I kinda think I ran an event or two back in the day that was unsanctioned. Never thought to ask at the time. You're bullet proof when young anyway.

Sanction doesn't guarantee an event will be without issue, nor does non-sanction mean disaster. If the sky falls in we have a whole different issue however in my book.

I've got a 4 season tent for a reason. We never found a good weekend for our winter camping trip plan but off Guenella Pass about 7 miles in from where they close the road is an abandoned ski resort. Get a few sleds (snow mobiles), some decent tents, cross country skis, and snowboards. Pack in and sent up camp. Winter means huge bonfires with no concern for the forest. Sleds mean trips up and down the mountain to your hearts content, always with fresh snow and no vacationers.

Sean. We were going to do an event like that. A friend owns some land that is off a road that is closed in the winter. He does snow removal so had started keeping the road plowed but then closing it in so people didn't realize and couldn't go back into it. Idea was we'd dig the road open, drive in, close it behind us, and rally to our hearts content. I think a few big storms that caught him off guard resulted in the road getting too deep for his equipment though. Or it was just a good idea that was never capitalized on.

That sounds like a great un-sanctioned event. A few good friends, no spectators or houses to hit. Good times....

I think that would be fun also.

That's more or less what we did. Go into the forest, get 2 roads close to each other with no side road access, and block the ends with worker and service vehicles.
Worked fine, no one bothered us, everybody had a good time.

Sean Gallagher

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That sounds like a great un-sanctioned event. A few good friends, no spectators or houses to hit. Good times....

Sean understands why I push 2.3 turbo cars with the T5 box and its silly 0,63 or .72 overdrive..

We can gear the rear axle as short as 4.56, have a good first, a hard hitting 4th, but cruise in 5th gear at less revs than a stock road car.
Even better at 4.3.......just doodle along.
That means that just cruising over to oh say the nearly bare hills between Wee-snatchie (Wenatchee) and smEllensburg 80 or 100 miles is no beeeg deal---that have some good clean fun, then cruise all comfy back.
2500rpm is sytlin'

Can't do that is a little rad n.a. car with 5:1 final drive

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I think there is a difference between an unsanctioned 'event' and a bunch of guys pissing around in the woods where they all know the score because they used their own trucks to block the road and are just out there for shits and giggles.

They really aren't comparable. The minute you start 'officially' closing roads and bringing in 'third party' volunteers/workers the game changes significantly. I think you need to ensure your participants (workers and competitors) are covered from a liability standpoint - but maybe that's just me.

On another note, personal experience has shown me once you are sanctioned by a recognised authority, getting road permissions becomes significantly easier. We faced bureaucratic roadblock after roadblock for some roads when sanction for an event was pending and they all but disappeared once sanction was granted.

Totally agree Keith, I think we all do. The one thing to avoid is using roads that a 'real rally' runs on for fear of screwing up and costing an event those roads.

I've never ran near as hard on a boys outing as during an actual rally.

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Totally agree Keith, I think we all do. The one thing to avoid is using roads that a 'real rally' runs on for fear of screwing up and costing an event those roads.

I've never ran near as hard on a boys outing as during an actual rally.

'zactly.... we were always well aware of not pissing off anywhere where we might even potentially have real events...

And I'm with you there. Used to be when me and Dave Dunn and Sam Bryan and The Original Dave Clark and Rick-dick-ulous Delamere and friensd would go out we used to (supposedly) scount out roads in the daylight, back to whereever for fuel and barf-o-bugers and then head out after dark, but I was always "practice boys--use the heads"

Me and Dave Dunn somehow never did anything naughty but some ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Sam Bryan was the worst 100% of whatever the car would do.....

Of course it was usually me and the mighty Saab who would pull 'em out of the brush (except those times when they were down a 20 foot embankment.....)


You found a beater 240 to build like we decided on that other thread?

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Totally agree Keith, I think we all do. The one thing to avoid is using roads that a 'real rally' runs on for fear of screwing up and costing an event those roads.

I've never ran near as hard on a boys outing as during an actual rally.

'zactly.... we were always well aware of not pissing off anywhere where we might even potentially have real events...

And I'm with you there. Used to be when me and Dave Dunn and Sam Bryan and The Original Dave Clark and Rick-dick-ulous Delamere and friensd would go out we used to (supposedly) scount out roads in the daylight, back to whereever for fuel and barf-o-bugers and then head out after dark, but I was always "practice boys--use the heads"

Me and Dave Dunn somehow never did anything naughty but some ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Sam Bryan was the worst 100% of whatever the car would do.....

Of course it was usually me and the mighty Saab who would pull 'em out of the brush (except those times when they were down a 20 foot embankment.....)


You found a beater 240 to build like we decided on that other thread?

Out of curiosity, is this the same Dave Dunn that races Spec Miatas these days? I've raced against Rick and his CRX. Both are fast tarmac drivers!

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Totally agree Keith, I think we all do. The one thing to avoid is using roads that a 'real rally' runs on for fear of screwing up and costing an event those roads.

I've never ran near as hard on a boys outing as during an actual rally.

'zactly.... we were always well aware of not pissing off anywhere where we might even potentially have real events...

And I'm with you there. Used to be when me and Dave Dunn and Sam Bryan and The Original Dave Clark and Rick-dick-ulous Delamere and friensd would go out we used to (supposedly) scount out roads in the daylight, back to whereever for fuel and barf-o-bugers and then head out after dark, but I was always "practice boys--use the heads"

Me and Dave Dunn somehow never did anything naughty but some ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Sam Bryan was the worst 100% of whatever the car would do.....

Of course it was usually me and the mighty Saab who would pull 'em out of the brush (except those times when they were down a 20 foot embankment.....)


You found a beater 240 to build like we decided on that other thread?

Out of curiosity, is this the same Dave Dunn that races Spec Miatas these days? I've raced against Rick and his CRX. Both are fast tarmac drivers!

No, Dave was a bike guy like me before and swore when entries hit $100 that he'd go back to bikes, so when i sold my last little Kawsaki KDX200 (that dave had found and checked out for me) he sold his and bought a 500 KTM dual Sport thing and rides that around in the Cascades and taunts me about all the fantasic roads he's found.

I do have a friend who I helped build his car way back in 1991 who lives in the Bay Area who does Spec Miata---Christmas eve I watched the whole season's finale at Sears Point while on the phone with him....Looks frustrating as hell when much better lines and braking are completely negating by a slower car right in the way on the ONLY line, and zero power over anybody to use to finish a well set up approach and braking and zip by

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If you make a " Cash Donation" to the local elected officials " Favorite Charity", they always green light your events.

Just sayin'.

Sean Gallagher
I used to live in New Jersey

"According to the event website, Wild West has been canceled"

That was left over from last year and has been removed.

I did the website last year. Hope took over doing it and she seems to be just replacing info from last year's site.

Some of the pages still show the NRS logo and the event logo and sponsor graphics are messed up (at least when viewed in Safari), so I was going to do them a favor and fix them this morning, but it looks like they MS-Word-ified the web pages, so the pages are hard (for someone like me who writes pages in simple HTML) to update.

alan

seems they did an update, its going on (or trying to)

btw I've done some "lets drive to this road and drive fast" its fun.. at times.. but one of my friends totaled 2 cars on our practice road. wrx, and a turbo legacy

that was before i had ever been to a rally. i still drive random dirt roads, but I don't time myself anymore.



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