stage rally prep - spare parts list

so i've seen threads on how to prep the car, and how to prep for rallycross, but my searches for "rally prep" or "spare parts list" are coming up shy...if someone has a link... Now, i've put together an unlimited budget "spare parts list" but wanted feedback from people that have been on the stage of... what doesn't need to be on this list, and what is "essential", or "would never be able to be replaced at an overnight service". or maybe if folks just want to share what they already have, that'd be great too:

oh, as for the door panels and stuff, i didn't find anything in the nasa rules that said "thou shalt replace these if they rip off"...so if anyone can come to a definitive conclusion on that...

• rear bumper cover
• front bumper
• rear wing
• trunk lid
• hood
• door panels

• lower control arms
• upper control arms
• front hub/bearing
• driveshaft assembly
• front axle
• steering knuckle,
• front shaft assembly
• rear shaft assembly
• suspension replacement

• intercooler assembly, hoses, hose clamps

• oil cooler, and lines
• coil assembly, spark plugs
• alternator
• serp belt

• power steering pump
• fuel pump
• radiator, and hoses
• all belts

• tranny fluid
• diff fluid
• acd fluid
• oil and oil filter
• power steering fluid
• coolant
• brake fluid

• brakes, extra pads, rotors
• replacement front caliper
• replacement rear caliper

• spare parts/tubing for replacement of hard lines
• full replacement of soft lines

• maf sensor
• millions of replacement bolts
• lots of wheel studs

Thanks,



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2011 07:34PM by supasixfo.

Struts and shocks? <- very likely to need these.
Turbo? <- very likely to need if running anti-lag
Clutch? <- very likely to need this
Diff? <- somewhat likely to need this... might need 3 depending what you drive
Transmission? <- big teams replace them all the time
Engine? <- big teams somtimes replace, sometimes rules don't allow
Windshield? <- can't continue without one
Window nets? <- use as replacement side windows
Tires and rims? <- it's sometimes the most obvious stuff you forget

My spares package is currently pretty depelted, but aside from your bodywork list, I have carried all of the above at some point, and for Targa last year we did carry all of the above. And we're by no means a no expense spared team... after review that isn't true, we've never carried a windshield or window nets, and we don't run an oil cooler or serp belt or acd fluid.

My rule is, if you have it, can fit it in the trailer and could in some possible way, change it, then take it.

Alternatively... just drive the car to the event with 2 spares and you're good to go!


-Martin.

Careful crew selection should provide access to at least one complete and running "parts" car. Choose wisely.
JT

Of your list this is what I had:

lower control arms
driveshaft assembly
front axle

hoses, hose clamps

serp belt

radiator (I did not carry but I did need to borrow a spare one once)
all belts

tranny fluid / diff fluid
oil
power steering fluid
coolant
brake fluid

brakes, extra pads

I also carried, fuses, zip ties, roll cage padding, lug nuts, spare significant bolts for the car (sub frame), motor mounts, wipers, bits of wire and something to fix exhaust leaks.

What ever your crew can change in a half hour-hour. I dont focus to much on body panels. Big hamer (5 lb hand sledge), fluids, spare tires, zip ties, fuses, suspension components (the stock stuff), belts hoses, alt, dist, starter, brake components, mounts, radiator, axles, a spool of wire for tying things up. And of course the most important- the spare key. My budget and crew do not do the whole spare engine, tranny deal, if it gets that far, we're packing it up.

Mine.

Complete front suspension, including subframe, and all associated hardware
Complete steering rack and tie rods
2 spare wheel bearings
L&R rear control arms and hardware
Axles
Brake pads
Brake hose, 1 front, 1 rear
Fuel pump, Fuel filter
Radiator
Intercooler
Radiator fan
Turbo
Alternator
Misc gaskets
Nut and bolt kit
Fluids, coolant, 5 qts engine, trans, gear, power steering, washer fluid, water.

In the car:
Belts zip tied to cage
Ignition module and tool to change
Hose clamps, electrical tape, duct tape
Giant zip ties, medium zip ties, small zip ties
Tools, spare tire, ect.

If it is a rough event, 1 front control arm (fits both sides) 1 compression strut (fits both sides) 1 complete tie rod set.

Would love to have a windshield. Once I swap to a T5 trans, I will have a spare, since it can be changed in 15 minutes.

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MrToad
Careful crew selection should provide access to at least one complete and running "parts" car. Choose wisely.
JT

Well at least I'm getting something done ahead of schedule with this project.



Appreciate this post. Between now and when the Keyboard Rallyist Mobile fires back up, I'm sure I'll have made several trips to the local yard for this and that.

(And thumb's up to the fellow Mitsubishi man. Kudos to you, sir.)

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Yup, the amount of stuff you take is definitely tied to the ability to actually use it. I never took a transmission or engine or diff.

One thing that won't be on most lists is a couple random pieces of metal. Not huge pieces... maybe a 6"x6" heavy sheet metal and a 12" by 2" 1/8" or something. Just whatever random pieces are laying around the garage. Why? Who knows why. But sometimes something gets bent and if you had a piece of metal you could drill two holes in, then you could mount/zip tie/bolt/wedge/weld that into place to make it last another four stages. It's the kind of thing that makes NO sense until you're looking at a broken part and then you look at the boxes and boxes of stuff behind you and all of them are filled with nice, clean, prepped car parts.

Anders

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Fuel pump
Fuel pump
Fuel pump.

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Fuel pump
Fuel pump
Fuel pump.

2 in the trunk and one in the truck.

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Sleezattle, WA, USA

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alkun
Fuel pump
Fuel pump
Fuel pump.

Hey Al, the work better when you leave the power wires attached to them

thanks all - this is really good information to know as we get ready for BRS. i think what i'll end up doing is separating stuff into a "can be done in 20 minute service", "can be done in 45 minute service, and "can be done overnight" bucket.

I imagine in the overnight bucket we'll split off the "if this happens, this would also be broken and it's time to crack open a beer bottle and enjoy the rest of show" category. which i imagine is going to be dictated by our budget anyway.

@DR1665 Thanks, hope to see you on the east coast w/ the galant sometime soon

I split it into 3 tote tubs.
Front of car. If it goes forward of the doors, it is in this tub
Rear of car. Same as above
Service supplies. Nuts, bolts, fluids, cleaners ect

The lid of each tub clearly states what is in them.

I would say that if a part is broken, I don't care how long it takes to change. If I can change it and not get time barred, I am going to do it. If I don't think I can, I am going to try like hell. If I can continue without changing, then so be it.

On my first rally, I almost DNF'd because at the start of the 3rd stage, when Jenne rolled down her window it unplugged the motor, and it would not go back up. It will be something very stupid that can get you.

While building and participating in rock crawling, I made fastidious lists of parts to bring on the trail. Alternators, starters, transfer case (left on the trailer), axles, jumper cables/welding rod, steering assembly. Invariably, I always broke that which I didn't have the spare part to fix. Finally, I just stopped bringing spares but lots of trail currency (cold beer) to barter with. I figure rally works the same way. In a hour-long service (or less) I can't imagine too much serious can be fixed anyway.



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SeanP
While building and participating in rock crawling, I made fastidious lists of parts to bring on the trail. Alternators, starters, transfer case (left on the trailer), axles, jumper cables/welding rod, steering assembly. Invariably, I always broke that which I didn't have the spare part to fix. Finally, I just stopped bringing spares but lots of trail currency (cold beer) to barter with. I figure rally works the same way. In a hour-long service (or less) I can't imagine too much serious can be fixed anyway.

Murphys law dictate that the second you bring a spare something that has broken x times before, it will never break again... ever!
Now something that you don't have a spare for will break...

Just last week my navi and I were packing the car for a small outing that doesn't count for anything, but is a helluva lot of fun anyway. We were pressed for time with packing tools and so on (I had had a bunch of issues getting parts), so I was like: "I wont bring the tools... gotta borrow if need be..."
My navi was fine with this, but when I grabbed the two boxes of VR6 CV joints he looked puzzled. So I said: "Well I'm bringing these just in case". And he went "But after converting to VR6 CV joints we haven't broken a single one of those". Then I had to answer: "Yeah... that's because I've been bringing two spares to every single event since converting..."
So naturally logic dictates: pack a spare car and you will never crash or have a failure...

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Brgrds
Brian





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2011 01:50AM by wildert.