Is Rallying in trouble in the US?

Hungarian tops the leader board for Gymkana (including news about table tennis)

The Swedes and Norwegians are into rallycross - who'd a thunk

And the best is that if you speak "Tagalog" you're into Max Attack - and you come from either Singapore or Seattle

I understand there are many different types of rally..from political to pep talks or motorsports...but I just F'n hate the term "rally race".

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I understand there are many different types of rally..from political to pep talks or motorsports...but I just F'n hate the term "rally race".

My rally is faster than your rally----neener neener!

The word in motorsports context and generally RALLy is understood. Even in Chinese. Even in French...

And the word "racing" is understood in every language I know anything about to mean "road racing"..

Only since the rise of Intra-webs forum and Video games.
Now the meaning has been totally decimated by people too disinterested in learning the general consensus of opinion at this point in time...It's really irrigating.


(I wonder how many clichés and malapropisms can be found in that one sentence?)

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2011 08:31PM by john vanlandingham.

Anyone who has crossed the border between the US and Canada (Particularly going to the US) knows that the common understanding of Rally is a gathering of people to commemorate or protest something... or both.

If I say I am going to a race, they ask where and when. Occasionally they challenge that there isn't a 'track' there - last time that happened when I was on my way to Portland OR, where there IS a track - so it was a tactical ask.

Even hauling a rally car, if you say you're going to a rally you're in for a game of 20 questions.

Doesn't matter much to me what they call it...

Maybe Ken block will trademark "rally" and we won't have to worry about rally in north america, we will have to worry about what to call it.

Hey it's happening to gymkhana and effecting one of its sanctioning bodies at a grassroots level. which is fawking lame by the way DC/block trying to kill grassroots gymkhana

I used to get worked up about "rally" versus "race".

Found out there were many other important problems to worry about.



Also, I'm enjoying attaching pithy images.

Anders

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.

Unless I missed something - where is the:

1) yelling about the rising cost of safety equipment
2) RA is killing rally, I'm only running NASA events

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mack73
Unless I missed something - where is the:

1) yelling about the rising cost of safety equipment
2) RA is killing rally, I'm only running NASA events

Man, that looks like Simon Cowell on steroids...oof...

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mack73
Unless I missed something - where is the:

1) yelling about the rising cost of safety equipment

You haven't heard about the new SFI 38.1 requirements where now your head and neck equipment expire, have you?

Anders

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.

If your head has expired, can you use expired equipment?

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Anders Green
You haven't heard about the new SFI 38.1 requirements where now your head and neck equipment expire, have you?

Makes me glad I bought an FIA certified one. I was mostly thinking for use in Canada and eventually overseas but turns out it worked out better here too!

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mack73
Unless I missed something - where is the:

1) yelling about the rising cost of safety equipment
2) RA is killing rally, I'm only running NASA events

Man, that looks like Simon Cowell on steroids...oof...

HAHA! I was just thinking that! Great minds think alike? haha



On a small sidenote, the gymkhana trademark thing is pretty stupid. I'm surprised they even GOT that trademarked, as certain things you cannot (such as commonly used names).

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Anders Green
You haven't heard about the new SFI 38.1 requirements where now your head and neck equipment expire, have you?

Makes me glad I bought an FIA certified one. I was mostly thinking for use in Canada and eventually overseas but turns out it worked out better here too!

Even at $15/pop I'll be able to recertify quite a few times before my used 2002 HANS costs more than a new one would.

And I wouldn't be surprised if FIA implements an expiration. Seats expire, belts expire...why would a HANS which is carbon/fiberglass like seats, and webbing like harnesses NOT expire?


Although I will say that logic doesn't stop the cynic in me from cringing at this and thinking it's just another symptom of having manufacturer led safety standards.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/04/2011 03:22PM by fliz.

I could see it both ways.

The stresses put on the hans in normal rally driving are probably pretty small, even with some of the slower/more gentle side and front quarter nudges. But if you get a big one, you should probably get it certified.

It's like a helmet, even if you dont SEE damage, if you got into a BIG wreck, you should replace it. The foam could be collapsed and the shell ok.

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Seats expire, belts expire...why would a HANS which is carbon/fiberglass like seats, and webbing like harnesses NOT expire?

The party line has always been that UV is the worst enemy of harnesses, and since you couldn't guarantee that cars were stored inside, you had to assume that the sunlight had been damaging the webbing all those years.

As an exercise for the reader, I leave it to you to imagine how many HANS devices are left in the sun for five years or stored outside.

Anders

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.