Thats what I get for getting bored before finishing the video. After you pull your u turn and head back through the first stretch and get back to that T, I stopped watching both times because I thought it was just a repeat.

Most of my statements stand.

My last bit of parting advise.

Many times in a stage route book, and always in stage notes, there will be notations warning the driver DONT CUT. Be it for rocks, or what have you hiding on the inside of the corner. My opinion, if it doesn't say dont cut, then you cut. Straighten as much of the corner as possible. Apex like you would on a race track, but since there is no tar to worry about, go a little further.

Thats just my driving style, I enjoy a good ditch hook.

Practising on public roads is tough. I personally cant commit to a corner the way I can on stage, there are just too many variables.

Stay safe sir.

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Thats what I get for getting bored before finishing the video. After you pull your u turn and head back through the first stretch and get back to that T, I stopped watching both times because I thought it was just a repeat.

Most of my statements stand.

My last bit of parting advise.

Many times in a stage route book, and always in stage notes, there will be notations warning the driver DONT CUT. Be it for rocks, or what have you hiding on the inside of the corner. My opinion, if it doesn't say dont cut, then you cut. Straighten as much of the corner as possible. Apex like you would on a race track, but since there is no tar to worry about, go a little further.

Thats just my driving style, I enjoy a good ditch hook.

Practising on public roads is tough. I personally cant commit to a corner the way I can on stage, there are just too many variables.

Stay safe sir.

haha I don't blame you. It's so flat and straight out here it's not even fun. I'm already getting kind of bored with it.

Go a little further? As in more inside? or harder into the corner?

Good news, I found a good section of dirt road with a ton of turns, crests, and some good elevation changes...a couple of jump opportunities and no huge straights...next week I plan to take a trip out there to "pacenote it" with my "codriver" and then wait a month so I wont remember and do a lower speed practice run. It's a lot longer too.

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haha I don't blame you. It's so flat and straight out here it's not even fun. I'm already getting kind of bored with it.

Go a little further? As in more inside? or harder into the corner?

Good news, I found a good section of dirt road with a ton of turns, crests, and some good elevation changes...a couple of jump opportunities and no huge straights...next week I plan to take a trip out there to "pacenote it" with my "codriver" and then wait a month so I wont remember and do a lower speed practice run. It's a lot longer too.

Go inside. Many of us (I know I am not alone) will often drag a wheel through the inside ditch. Outside inside outside, just like on a racetrack.

I wouldn't worry about noting, or waiting a month. Work on your innate car control. This can even be done in a gravel or even tar parking lot. Its all about being able to control the car, regardless of the situation. This is where car setup gets more important, because knowing how the car will act with bald street tires and stock suspension is only so useful.

To be honest, practising on public roads is going to get you into trouble in one form or another sooner rather then later. I can't really tell you not to, but I can tell you that I think you would learn far more from sanctioned racing events. Skills learned on track, or at an auto or rally cross will help you in your rally career. You can also get professional pointers at many events. There you can drastically improve your car control skills, as well as your understanding of what going fast really means.

Just going out with friends and booning on dirt roads is fun, but its hard to truly hone your skills. Unless you get really crazy, there is no objective way to measure improvement. At your level, and I may be wrong, but it is very difficult to tell from in the car, in the moment, whether 1 pass around a given corner is faster, then another. Especially since being showy feels fast, but is often not so.

Just my 2 cents.

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Go inside. Many of us (I know I am not alone) will often drag a wheel through the inside ditch. Outside inside outside, just like on a racetrack.

I wouldn't worry about noting, or waiting a month. Work on your innate car control. This can even be done in a gravel or even tar parking lot. Its all about being able to control the car, regardless of the situation. This is where car setup gets more important, because knowing how the car will act with bald street tires and stock suspension is only so useful.

To be honest, practising on public roads is going to get you into trouble in one form or another sooner rather then later. I can't really tell you not to, but I can tell you that I think you would learn far more from sanctioned racing events. Skills learned on track, or at an auto or rally cross will help you in your rally career. You can also get professional pointers at many events. There you can drastically improve your car control skills, as well as your understanding of what going fast really means.

Just going out with friends and booning on dirt roads is fun, but its hard to truly hone your skills. Unless you get really crazy, there is no objective way to measure improvement. At your level, and I may be wrong, but it is very difficult to tell from in the car, in the moment, whether 1 pass around a given corner is faster, then another. Especially since being showy feels fast, but is often not so.

Just my 2 cents.

Right, I drag wheel every now and then. I guess coming into some turns is kinda weird because I'm "stuck" in the middle of the road because I like driving where people have before because it's more stable. Yeah I know that's not how you do it, need to get that out of my head. Also these street tires are 2 months old...they are just the third cheapest one can buy where I work. $45 a piece w/ discount.

Alright, will do. Also, this road is actually NOT public and the land owner does not care about people driving through his roads. (they are real roads, not just random land). I used to go out to Mineral Wells and talk to the drifters and and get ride alongs. I guess that's why I have a slight tendency to power over through corners but for the most part I'm not trying to. And I'm not talking about your little dinky jdm tyte drifters.

I just like to practice in low traction situations to help car control and cornering at the limit or past the limit. And yes, most of te time the back end gets out it does actually feel slower for me.

I would still like to note this new road though because there is one turn into a jump that I would say would be a triple caution. (but idk) And atm I couldn't tell you where it is. The road is 7.9 miles long.



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