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It is simple economics. If you can get it for near free, why not?
Both teams WILL get handfulls of applications for these shoots and some of the girls will actually be attractive and talented enough to make it worthwhile. My bet is they are doing the same for the photographer, or are shooting it themselves. Professionals, bring predictability and repeatability to the process from both the modelling and shooting side. There are a couple of very easy to make mistakes when doing this kind of shoot that most people won't even notice until it is too late to re-shoot, and are near impossible to photoshop out. (To give you an idea, I've been a professional photographer for 20 years and don't feel super comfortable with this kind of shoot - only becasue I see it done badly so often.) But... in the end it doesn't matter because what-ever they come up with will 'clear the bar' in terms of what they expect and will accept and professionals would also bring a significant price tag to the shoot and the poster project. What they are missing in all of this is that the 'right' thing to do when budgeting is to set-aside 15 to 20% of sponsorship income to be spent on promotions and PR. But at $4,000 for tires for a season I doubt they've spent much time on setting their budget. (either they're talking a net $4k after selling off partially used tires or they don't plan on running new tires all the time.) First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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I like to think that I have some success in this particular area, so...
The difference between a woman who has some experience doing this and a "first-timer in a bikini" is noticable. (Even they two women are otherwise twins.) A photographer who is experienced (in working with models, not in working with a camera) can make up for this. Some ladies will do "TFP", which means "Trade For Prints", which means they'll trade their time and effort and not get paid in order to expand their portfolio, to work toward paid gigs. Craigslist is probably not the best community to begin the project. Instead, they should be at http://www.modelmayhem.com/ But that community has gatekeepers, you can't get in until you're already in the modeling/photography world (catch22), so they would need to contact one of the local photographers to organize the local models. Anders 
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Not really - the only people who will take them up on their offer are girls who what to build a portfolio and who need 'experience' in front of the camera. Doing 'free' jobs like this takes the place of paying a photographer to shoot portfolio images. They get more than a paycheck out of it. The perfect storm is when you find photographers, models and make-up artists who all need 'portfolio' work - the problem is that with inexperienced people it could all go wrong and you'd end up with nothing you'd want to show anyone and starting from scratch. The tradeoff for using 'free' talent is the chance you have to re-do the work. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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