I pretty much do what Doug Heredos does: tools in a canvas bag (military surplus "Mechanics Bag" - $10 or so at the local surplus place), strapped behind the driver's seat. The jack has a plate welded to the bottom, one side slips under a lip, the other side held down with hitch pin (sound familiar?). The First Aid kit, spill kit, etc, are strapped onto a circular plywood disk that fits inside my spare tire, laying in its well in the trunk. The disk doubles as a jack platform in muddy/sandy conditions.

I carry an impact in a leather holster that's riveted down. And yes, JVL has made fun of me for that.

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The bigger question is why are you carrying an impact gun in the first place.

What's wrong with carrying an impact? Far better than changing a tire on stage by hand.

Other than sno*drift what was the last rally you were at where even 10% of the competitors had flat tires?

Sure changing a tire by hand on stage is going to be slower but by how much? Maybe 45sec a minute? If you are changing a flat on stage you have already lost at most 1 day rallies and what is really the difference between 4 min and 5 min stopped on stage in the final standings.

If you contrast that against the extra weight penalty for carrying that impact gun on ever stage of every rally especialy if you have spent time to create lexan windows, stripping underbody goo, removing extra metal from the chassis, etc in an effort to save weight. Why would you add that heavy impact gun back into the car.

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The bigger question is why are you carrying an impact gun in the first place.

What's wrong with carrying an impact? Far better than changing a tire on stage by hand.

Other than sno*drift what was the last rally you were at where even 10% of the competitors had flat tires?

Sure changing a tire by hand on stage is going to be slower but by how much? Maybe 45sec a minute? If you are changing a flat on stage you have already lost at most 1 day rallies and what is really the difference between 4 min and 5 min stopped on stage in the final standings.

If you contrast that against the extra weight penalty for carrying that impact gun on ever stage of every rally especialy if you have spent time to create lexan windows, stripping underbody goo, removing extra metal from the chassis, etc in an effort to save weight. Why would you add that heavy impact gun back into the car.

Those cordless impact guns weigh like 5 lbs.... just the bottled water I carry in the car weighs more than it. Even though the time isn't a big deal the convenience factor is. 2 Sec with the impact gun you can have the car off the ground.


As far as securing the jack. I just welded two bolts that are the same as the Lug nuts. Bolt the impact gun down with extra lug nuts. Just incase you manage to lose them while changing a tire.


At sno*drift I had to change two.... damn stump.







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The pelican case on the right has tools, jack, and a few small spare parts like ignition module, nuts/bnolts/clamps ect
The pelican case on the left has the first aid kit and SAM splint.
The Impact is wrapped in a chunk of foam, under the board that in on top of the spare.
Belts zip-tied to the cage.
Spill kit is in the box that the triangle kit comes in, bolted to the floor behind the drivers seat.

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Belts zip-tied to the cage.
Spill kit is in the box that the triangle kit comes in, bolted to the floor behind the drivers seat.

what are you using for hooks for the transit headsets?

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The bigger question is why are you carrying an impact gun in the first place.

What's wrong with carrying an impact? Far better than changing a tire on stage by hand.

Other than sno*drift what was the last rally you were at where even 10% of the competitors had flat tires?

Sure changing a tire by hand on stage is going to be slower but by how much? Maybe 45sec a minute? If you are changing a flat on stage you have already lost at most 1 day rallies and what is really the difference between 4 min and 5 min stopped on stage in the final standings.

If you contrast that against the extra weight penalty for carrying that impact gun on ever stage of every rally especialy if you have spent time to create lexan windows, stripping underbody goo, removing extra metal from the chassis, etc in an effort to save weight. Why would you add that heavy impact gun back into the car.

When I was co-driving with Chris Greenhouse at STPR, we got a flat on the WM stages. Using an impact and hydraulic jack to change the tire, we came back and won G2 by 28.8 seconds. So you can say, the hydraulic jack and impact gave us the G2 win. From my experience, it is worth it to bring an impact to change tires.

The weight gain are going to be negligible most likely compared to the time you save when you get a flat. If you think not bringing an impact is worth the gamble because a chance of a flat is so low... Why even carry a spare then at that point? You could save a lot more weight not carrying a spare, jack, lugs, tools if you think there's a large performance gain at not carrying an impact gun.



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You can get a "holster" from Home Depot, Lowes, etc to hold th impact gun.

Just make sure the socket is attached well and can't come off...been there done that...

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I carry 2 spairs... some time we will have 2..3..or more stages before we get back to service.

The idea of going ''comando'' with no more spair tires for those stages... is going to slow me down...

It seams like most teams in Canada do carry 2 spairs ?

I also carry a impact... in a hoslter...the the custom alu box is sweet!! i now have to ditch the hoslter and fab one of those up.

I use a rollup canvas tool bag. And will use some amo box for a few things.

In the past i used a plastic tool box, bolted down to hold some fluids, tools and misc... but on a 3+ roll excursion in the wood...the box broke leaving only the bottom part of it secured...the rest just flew all arond the car. (Note : it was not a pellican box.)

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You can use the space under the spare for a tool bag etc. Although it makes it easier to change a flat if you don't need to deal with putting everything back in. Having different spaces for things is nice for that. I always thought this was a good solution for the impact.

Oh dear god, don't do that. In a roll that impact gun will come flying out of there and all around the cabin.

The headset hangers are Coat hanger wire, bent and zip-tied to the X.

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Oh dear god, don't do that. In a roll that impact gun will come flying out of there and all around the cabin.

Question, is the problem the whole box idea, or just using the spring catch to hold the gun in place? I was thinking of doing something similar, but using a nylon strap attached in the bottom of the box with a couple small D rings or something similar. I figured that would be strong enough, and the strap could be pulled tight on the gun to stop it from moving around at all.

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Oh dear god, don't do that. In a roll that impact gun will come flying out of there and all around the cabin.

Question, is the problem the whole box idea, or just using the spring catch to hold the gun in place? I was thinking of doing something similar, but using a nylon strap attached in the bottom of the box with a couple small D rings or something similar. I figured that would be strong enough, and the strap could be pulled tight on the gun to stop it from moving around at all.

If you had two tight straps it might stay in there. The problem with that picture is the single spring will stretch and the gun can pivot right out of there even though it fits tight to the box. Two tight straps or latches would probably hold it in there.

My old car had a gate latch bent around the handle, I used a carabiner to hold it latched. Never went anywhere in multiple offs.

Yeah, securing heavy things inside the car should be done overkill IMHO. In our big impact, not a single thing came loose.

I welded an ammo box to the car for tools, built a pin mount for the jack with a push button quick pin for getting it out. I kept the spill kit under the spare with lug wrench and two triangles. The ammo box helped brace the spare tire.

I typically carried a few soft goods such as jackets on top of the spare all held down with ratchet straps.

Water bottle cages on the roll cage (good ones that hold the bottle) low and a triangle strapped to the cage on co-driver's side. I also had a flash light holster on drivers and co driver's side as well as a bag for Navi's stuff near his/her feet.

I tested it all and never had anything come loose when upside down, on two wheels, finding a new path through the trees etc.

Do not forget gloves I rather not work on a hot motor with my driving gloves, carried a few mecanix type gloves.

I had a fair number of flats, once 3 on one stage. The more of the road you use the more flats you tend to get.

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