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john vanlandingham
Max, you've had dizzie die? What dies? Its kinda the same crap as everybody used isn't it (Hall effect)? They die?
Do you have in place that grey ring that goes on before the dizzie cap?

You have 2 of the ignition amps in place already? I've seen thsoe fawkers die one start up to the next, no warning..

i keep the dizzy mainly for the rotor/cap/innards. thats the other thing, that damn amp. ive had the coil fry my amp twice. i havent had the dizzy die on me..................yet.

oh, add to that list, a coil and two amps. lil effers. as bad as the damn pump relays. cheap crap.

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john vanlandingham
Max, you've had dizzie die? What dies? Its kinda the same crap as everybody used isn't it (Hall effect)? They die?
Do you have in place that grey ring that goes on before the dizzie cap?

You have 2 of the ignition amps in place already? I've seen thsoe fawkers die one start up to the next, no warning..

i keep the dizzy mainly for the rotor/cap/innards. thats the other thing, that damn amp. ive had the coil fry my amp twice. i havent had the dizzy die on me..................yet.

oh, add to that list, a coil and two amps. lil effers. as bad as the damn pump relays. cheap crap.

Well screw the spare ignition amp down right next to the other so you just pull the plug off the one and poke it on to the other in 1 second.
The cap and rotor, yeah take them---saw a friend slam the hood on his when doing something out in the woods when we were playing...and saw the carbon contact in the middle fall out of a cap, again out playing.
Just talkin with Robert and he said naw don't take the dizzy, just cap/rotor and ONE long plug lead.. Leave the dizzy in the truck.
After all, many guys can't drop in the dizzy timed right first or second time.
Coil: never seen one suddenly die....the ones I've seen die start acting bad...Coil in truck.

2 fuel pumps. Yes. plumbed and flip a switch. Ask Tom Buress how DNFing while leading Doo Wops overall with 7 miles to go---and 2 spares in the truck felt.

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Well the dual pump set up is on the to do list.

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Intercoms, just yell if it breaks.

I've had intercoms fail for a number of reasons - from batteries dying to just being crap intercoms - the ability to switch plugs and get clear communications back was fantastic. Of course that only applies if you listen to your co-driver.

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Odometer? People use those? :-D

Last weekend was the first time in the new area for Oregon Trail. A working ODO was hugely appreciated on the transits. Not that needed on stage, but did come in handy once or twice on stage.

Well I put in a fresh 9v at least each rally, if I notice I left it on overnight on accident, I put a new one in on the 2nd day. Then I just toss them all in a bag and use them for various things around the house like smoke detectors and such.

I'm not saying I don't use an odo, I use a GPS odometer on our phones (we both carry smartphones) and as the 3rd back-up I can use the trip meter on the car.

But I had thought of a dual pump, there just isn't a switchable dual pump (there is a dual pump both running for drag cars) on the market right now. On the bottom of my list to fabricate. But if I went to a fuel cell, I would do a dual pump system for sure.

With all the issues I've had with comms, I think I better get in the market for another setup. We have 2 tilton pumps in the car each on thier own relay. I make damn sure we have spare plugs which we never need and spare plug wires which we've needed 2 outta the last 3 rallies. We also used a fancybutt display gps unit last rally that did a pretty good job of keeping us on station when the terribletrip acted up, for as long as we ran which um wasn't all that long. We're using 2 probes on said terribletrip next outing, see if that helps it behave. What I tend to bring along for spares, is one of every single item that ends up not being needed, and leave at home whatever is going to break. What I should do is exactly that, then throw everything I packed in the service truck out and load everthang I was gonna leave, in.
Shit I gotta get a bigger truck.

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But I had thought of a dual pump, there just isn't a switchable dual pump (there is a dual pump both running for drag cars) on the market right now. On the bottom of my list to fabricate. But if I went to a fuel cell, I would do a dual pump system for sure.

Not rocket science to make one yourself.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/rallyrace.net%20dual%20fuel%20pump/jetta2dr/DSCF1429.jpg

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/file.php?5,file=902,filename=fuel_supply_done.jpg

Aftermarket Industries in Australia make a nifty dual 044 holder with fuel rails to connect the pumps.

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Grant Hughes

I think a dizzy is a distributor...

We carry almost nothing for spares... Accessory belt, some fuses.... Spare tire of course (never used it, though!). Nothing is redundant that I can think of.

This could bite us eventually, but this is my ninth season of rally and so far, so good. If something was breaking regularly, and I couldn't determine the cause, then I would definitely carry that thing.

Doug

I carry in the car:
Basic tools
drive belts
ignition module
hose clamps, small section of 5/8" hose
zip ties, medium size, and those huge ones
a few fuses, a few electrical connectors
duct tape
water
a selection of random bolts, and the hardware needed to bypass the oil supply to the turbo

Stock ODO working, and a terratrip

I do tend to prep the car well, but shit does happen. Sheared all 6 bolts on an axle at the start of Broklyn stage.

Twin pumps are on my short list, as is onboard fire suppression.

I am very tempted to make my front strut brace out of 2 suspension links bolted together...

So I haven't seen any mention of wheel nuts. (maybe a given?) Particularly in the winter we'd carry extra wheel nuts and in some cases a mag tray for the nuts when changing tires)

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Blame is for idiots. losers.

Basic tools, spare tire or two, impact, lug nuts, ignition module, fuses, relays, alt belt. electrical tape, wire and a couple of connectors. Stove wire, zip ties, duct tape, bungees, ratchet straps, a couple of blocks of wood.. a few common nuts & bolts.

-Martin.

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I think a dizzy is a distributor...

We carry almost nothing for spares... Accessory belt, some fuses.... Spare tire of course (never used it, though!). Nothing is redundant that I can think of.

This could bite us eventually, but this is my ninth season of rally and so far, so good. If something was breaking regularly, and I couldn't determine the cause, then I would definitely carry that thing.

Doug

This right here.

In over 30 events (with some extremely last minute, poor preperation to boot) I've never used any sort of redundant type features in a rally car, and wouldn't expect to need to. The car (in my mind) is not properly prepped if I need to carry the "kitchen" sink of items that shouldn't be expendable.

I still am curious how intercoms "fail", if anyone has ever had them looked at. I have a "crappy" Terraphone clubman that must be a decade old, and it works just as good as the Peltor FMT110's I typically used the past 5 years... wonder if the failing comes from the connection points being poorly strained relieved on the cords. As with anything, it should probably be viewed as an expendable item (every one seems to hardmount them to cages, all of the bumps/bangs/vibrations are sent directly to it), but replacing it every 3 years seems like a good game plan.

Of course, it doesn't HURT to be more prepared. Having dual fuel pumps seems like it would be a worthy endevaour eventually. Dual throttle cables seems overboard, I could see it at events like Mexico though.

I carry a spare lug nut and socket in a small zipper pouch next to my jack.

I also have a cheapo radiator hose splice with two clamps in a ziplock bag.

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Never broke a throttle cable in all the miles and years and different cars I rallied..or owned for that matter. Weber (dual single, side or downdraft), DeLorto, Mikuni, SU, Carter and stock Hitachi..no problems. Adjust the throttle travel is an important step.

I used to carry 1 qt oil, 1 gal coolant, a couple hose clamps, racer tape and a handful of nuts and bolts.

I never really rallied a FWD so had no common breakables...old Datsuns, Mazdas and Mitsus were pretty tough.

Anything very serious and yer poked anyway. If you have a spare fremlich the gramlich will break instead. Carry a spare pop, tp and a camera. Car breaks, take crap, piss on the time card and get some good pics...

This is a great theory and practice.

I keep a whole car of spares. I don't know what you guys are doing.

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Never broke a throttle cable in all the miles and years and different cars I rallied..or owned for that matter. Weber (dual single, side or downdraft), DeLorto, Mikuni, SU, Carter and stock Hitachi..no problems. Adjust the throttle travel is an important step.

I used to carry 1 qt oil, 1 gal coolant, a couple hose clamps, racer tape and a handful of nuts and bolts.

I never really rallied a FWD so had no common breakables...old Datsuns, Mazdas and Mitsus were pretty tough.

Anything very serious and yer poked anyway. If you have a spare fremlich the gramlich will break instead. Carry a spare pop, tp and a camera. Car breaks, take crap, piss on the time card and get some good pics...

This is a great theory and practice.

Great but Hintz just broke one, presumably stock pedal, cable and throttle...
A lotta theories are great too...

Never broke a rear spindle till the time Jamie Florence had bought a monster huge Vista Cruiser as service rig and I picked up a rear axle assembly (very light but VERY strong) and thought Naaaaaaaaaaaw never even seen a hint.. SS1 or 2 sheasred the spindle

never broke a strengthened A arm, till I didn't take spares.

I love discussing theories.

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