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The better unit would also be a direct bolt on, is the Sadev SRR3 that goes on the Honda Civic R3 and Clio R3. Takes a lot more TQ, and is a 6spd. It is based of their ST line of boxes that have been around from the Peugeot days. Tried and trued. Cost is I think 9000 euros or $11,500 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc for this one.

Or you can go for the Quaife's new FWD universal Seq, £7000 or $10,900 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc plus after all said and done.

FTFY

Or maybe $12,000 to $14,000 when all is done.
Wow, what a deal!
I'd call today to void what is surely going o be a stampede...
I'd say to get 2 to have a spare, at a price like that everybody should.

This should be cross posted to "the Next Big Thing that will save Rally"

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Or maybe $12,000 to $14,000 when all is done.
Wow, what a deal!
I'd call today to void what is surely going o be a stampede...
I'd say to get 2 to have a spare, at a price like that everybody should.

There are rally cars with comparable transmissions. Sure, they aren't for everyone, but some people don't mind spending that kind of money on their hobby. I'd take a cool gearbox like that for my rally car over a $14k daily driver car or boat and that's probably the low end of what people spend and if I can afford it...
It probably depreciates less than a boat or car also though maintenance may be comparable.
Is it necessary? Nope. Cool? Certainly.

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Or maybe $12,000 to $14,000 when all is done.
Wow, what a deal!
I'd call today to void what is surely going o be a stampede...
I'd say to get 2 to have a spare, at a price like that everybody should.

There are rally cars with comparable transmissions. Sure, they aren't for everyone, but some people don't mind spending that kind of money on their hobby. I'd take a cool gearbox like that for my rally car over a $14k daily driver car or boat and that's probably the low end of what people spend and if I can afford it...
It probably depreciates less than a boat or car also though maintenance may be comparable.
Is it necessary? Nope. Cool? Certainly.

Oh I disagree, at a price like that they ARE for everybody..After all everybody has peaky engines that rev to 8500 every gear and its such a drag when the shifts leave the engine down below 4000 on shifts...
Why I'd go further and say you oughtter sell the Lima stuff, or sell the whole car and get a new Fiesta just so you could get a couple of these before everybody else does.
Narrow peaky powerbands and sequential dog boxes are the new short black skirt.

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... the new short black skirt.

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The better unit would also be a direct bolt on, is the Sadev SRR3 that goes on the Honda Civic R3 and Clio R3. Takes a lot more TQ, and is a 6spd. It is based of their ST line of boxes that have been around from the Peugeot days. Tried and trued. Cost is I think 9000 euros or $11,500 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc for this one.

Or you can go for the Quaife's new FWD universal Seq, £7000 or $10,900 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc plus after all said and done.

FTFY

Or maybe $12,000 to $14,000 when all is done.
Wow, what a deal!
I'd call today to void what is surely going o be a stampede...
I'd say to get 2 to have a spare, at a price like that everybody should.

This should be cross posted to "the Next Big Thing that will save Rally"

John, I was just correcting the previous posts and adding correct information. Wasnt telling people that they need to have it. Plus if you dont like the answers dont post, dont like the prices, dont buy... fuck it homie, why you so pissed all the time? You need to go find some good looking whores and grudge fuck'em to let out all the anger.

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The better unit would also be a direct bolt on, is the Sadev SRR3 that goes on the Honda Civic R3 and Clio R3. Takes a lot more TQ, and is a 6spd. It is based of their ST line of boxes that have been around from the Peugeot days. Tried and trued. Cost is I think 9000 euros or $11,500 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc for this one.

Or you can go for the Quaife's new FWD universal Seq, £7000 or $10,900 plus bellhousing mods, driveshaft mods, clutch actuation mods, freight from overseas, clutch etc plus after all said and done.

FTFY

Or maybe $12,000 to $14,000 when all is done.
Wow, what a deal!
I'd call today to void what is surely going o be a stampede...
I'd say to get 2 to have a spare, at a price like that everybody should.

This should be cross posted to "the Next Big Thing that will save Rally"

John, I was just correcting the previous posts and adding correct information. Wasnt telling people that they need to have it. Plus if you dont like the answers dont post, dont like the prices, dont buy... fuck it homie, why you so pissed all the time? You need to go find some good looking whores and grudge fuck'em to let out all the anger.

Paulinho I am not angry. I apply heavy sarcasm when people start "talking' about things like this because they cannot be taken seriously.
But there's no reason for anger. Am i am not. I wonder why it is that only a extremely few misunderstand the very BROAD sarcasm..

Could it possibly be that they work in environments where it is a daily hour by hour thing that one has to disconnect genuine human responses?
I mean say you have a totally clueless say OLD individual who you know cannot drive for shit, and who is saying "I really neeeeeed these ____________ because blah blah blah blah" To which you must answer some polite way because one is daily around people all talking about how the "need' things extreme....when they cannot even use road car level stuff, and those guys buying crazy shit pays the bills?


Paul, How many guys will even spend $2500 for a VW close ratio gear set?

Most of the guys currently driving spend a lot of money on LARGE houses, NEW-ish road cars, lots on vitally needed electronic toys like phones and tablets and all the shit every boy buys unblinkingly...

But they baulk at spending even $2500 for a gear kit..
I just had a guy over who is intending to do his first event soon, he was planning on buying 6 new tires at at least $175 each, a over $1000 in tires.
Stock motor. Stock gearbox, Stock suspension, stock brakes.

I've seen that millions of times. I've not just seen it, you know I have said to guys "you bought 6 tires NEW!!! But stock box and no lsd.. I bought second hand tires, already did one event, and just beat you by over 24 minutes, and won the class and 8th OA in the National...could it be that there is a good gear set in my gearbox? And a good final drive and LSD set right that made the difference?

And guys won't get even low cost gearsets....


So I just play silly when at the level 99% of people are prepping their cars that there's talk of 11-15 thousand dollar gearboxes.

It's silly. Why would you imagine its angry? You gotta care about stuff to be angry about stuff...

And the response to absurdity is not anger, it laughter...

I think you have misunderstood, or my off hand joking doesn't always work 100% of the time.

Can't win 'em all.

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Paul and John, I can't wait for that magical night we all go drinking together.

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I remember an event where Janice Damitio did well in her old red 510. Another competitor walked up to her and rather than congrats looked at her and said " You wouldn't have done that well if I had entered..."
Egos are a terrible thing somethimes.

I'd guess the new guys maybe learned a bit about rally and ralliests this weekend, hopefully. Still they did finish and that is to be commended along with the chastizing.

Maybe they knew the person???

If not, ya that's really scummy to do. One thing i learned in racing from a buddy who is really fast, is to always congratulate the person who beat you. (usually the person ahead of me + class winner)

I think it catches on after a while ...

Tom and I didn't have much competition after a few people wrecked at the RNY Sprint, still felt awesome to get splashed with champagne and a 3rd in class medal.

I tried to congratulate everyone, and at least have a little chat with the non-finishers.

The Irish folk seemed a bit unapproachable, but maybe I just look like a scoundrel and we weren't anywhere near their times so maybe I don't have the right to make eye contact with them.

I gotta hope that guy knew Janice and was just being funny. Cuz otherwise that's a level of assholyness that is difficult to fathom.
Sheez I remember my first rally, just fulla myself cuz we finished and everything, and then seeing as how Hintz was not just faster'n me, but lots faster, in his 2wd car agin my awesome awd gtx.. So at the awards ceeremony when I got my hardware and said thanx to organizers and volunteers and all, I asked him if he offered drivin lessons...

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But I'd still think a mild modded MS1 would be a fine and dandy regional G2 car for sure.

From the fiesta's that have been out on the stages starting sometime last year only the R2's really seem competitive. Although I don't know of anyone that has had a real deal MS1.

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Stomp down on the exhilarator and hold on to the wheel.

We all knew each other. The guy wasn't being cute and never congratulated Janice, he was being a dick plain and simple.

Anyone who enters an event is a step above, anyone who finishes an event is two steps above. Anyone who finishes and has the privelage of competeing with someone on a stage by stage battle is a winner, irregardless of position.

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Paul and John, I can't wait for that magical night we all go drinking together.

Anders

Hey, aren't I invited to the drinking fest? All youse old guys probably don't know how to party anyways...

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We all knew each other. The guy wasn't being cute and never congratulated Janice, he was being a dick plain and simple.

Anyone who enters an event is a step above, anyone who finishes an event is two steps above. Anyone who finishes and has the privelage of competeing with someone on a stage by stage battle is a winner, irregardless of position.

There are some odd ones out there..
I'm glad they so rare.
After real enduro-loons, gravel rally guys are some of the best guys in motorsport I've known...

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Paul and John, I can't wait for that magical night we all go drinking together.

Anders

Hey, aren't I invited to the drinking fest? All youse old guys probably don't know how to party anyways...

I never have met anybody in the 20s who has had enough experience to party longer than some guys in their 30s and 40s...

Like most things, guys with little experience overestimate their achievements in this area too.

Think of it, you become stronger by doing things, party hard for 20+ years and you're going to be stronger than a kid who has only a few years serious party-tude.

And partying is more than empty minded drinking.

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