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Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p

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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 08:15AM
Congrats, our third child is due Jan 4th. Have your wife ask for diapers at the baby shower. For both our first two kids that's what we did, and didn't have to purchase a single diaper the first year of either kid.
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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 08:55AM
We've not purchased a single disposable diaper for ours. We're using cloth instead. We haven't purchased any clothes, breast pump, baby monitor, crib, boppy, bumbo, or a bunch of stuff we did get at baby shower. I'm finding I really prefer cloth diapers. Most of our covers are adjustable to fit newborn and beyond. The actual diapers are pretty affordable. Saves money, saves environment, no diaper rashes, 12 months average earlier potty trained.



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 10:32AM
how do you handle cloth diapers as far as washing or being out and about?



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 11:45AM
We have 32 diapers, 8 or so diaper covers, 2 snappi closures, about 25 cotton wipes, and 2 spray bottles with homemade wipe spray ( 1 gal distilled water, boiled, 6 oz hypo wash, 4 oz hypo baby oil, few drops of lavender EO). When we go places, which we do almost daily, we bring 4-5 diapers, an extra cover, a bag for dirties, wipes, and a spray bottle.
I find them actually easier to put on then the disposables were because they lay our easily and don't try to fold. Well, just as easy anyhow.
We do laundry about every other day. 30 minute pre-rinse, hot wash, cold rinse. Once you introduce solid foods you have to rinse and solid poo out of the diaper before washing. Which means installing a hand held bidet on toilet which has other benefits as well in my mind! smiling smiley
All our diapers are Oh-so-cozy brand, which is what most diaper services use. Cost around $25 per dozen though our first 20 we bought used for $1 a piece. All our covers we have bought used from $1.50 to $6 per. We're lucky in that there is a store that focuses on cloth diapers near us that also has a gently used bin. Pretty sure most of their used is people who gave up.
We've bought one of the all-in-one diapers to keep in diaper bag or for when we have a baby sitter over since they are easier than the pre-folds. We'll probably get a few more from used bin over next few months just to keep in diaper bag or again, for traveling.
Something like 5 billion disposables go into landfill every year.
Currently average potty trained age is 36-42 months. Back before disposables it was less than 18 months with 92% of babies potty trained by 18 months. The biggest theory is that kids are more motivated because they are more uncomfortable when wet then the ultra absorbent disposables.
That said, I think disposable diapers is probably a decent/safe place to invest money. smiling smiley
We are looking into doing some breast milk testing. We have a mass spec now at the lab and may branch out the business a bit. We've done water testing and urine testing, but I think breast milk testing may be interesting as well.



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 11:56AM
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We've not purchased a single disposable diaper for ours. We're using cloth instead. We haven't purchased any clothes, breast pump, baby monitor, crib, boppy, bumbo, or a bunch of stuff we did get at baby shower. I'm finding I really prefer cloth diapers. Most of our covers are adjustable to fit newborn and beyond. The actual diapers are pretty affordable. Saves money, saves environment, no diaper rashes, 12 months average earlier potty trained.

I'm Interested i that route as well .. though obviously cleaning the used diapers is the 'sticking point' so to speak... I've read recently i get a vote in all parenting decsisions , but not to exceed a 49% weight in any decision ... :p

And I've also read how babies get potty trained a lot sooner with cloth. Seems like the way to go, if you can deal with diaper cleaning duties... and i've done stranger high manual labor for little savings type deals for the rally car.

Ya i'm excited, and nervous .. Ya we'll rally some more, though at best it will be 10 months before an event for me again... but hey ...

I may try to make my own crib (well a crib for the baby) something I wanted to do before knowing we were pregnant



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 12:01PM
On the topic of baby clothes:

For the first couple of years whatever you don't get from friends or family you should definitely look for at a local Salvation Army or Goodwill. They grow out of things so quickly and these places often have really nice rarely used little clothes.

For fun I always hit the Salvation Army and I've thought before if I had little ones I would definitely shop there. If you have one near a bigger city you get a great mix of stuff and...50% off weekends sometimes too smiling smiley It's a blast. The one in Seattle always plays great music and everyone's in a happy mood!



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 12:23PM
There's at least three baby consignment shops I've been to. We got a Baby Bjorn at the baby shower, then I found one at consignment for $80 less, so we returned the new one and used it to buy our crib mattress. All our big stuff like baby carrier, stroller, crib, etc have been hand me downs from family. Most of the rest we bought ourselves. We did buy some Ikea bookcases for bedroom and I did use real wood for crown molding and chair rail and fairly high end wallpaper for the walls. But the baby room turned out amazing. Oh, I have a pic on this computer...



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 01:27PM
I don't know how much diapers cost in the USA, but to me, the buck or 2 a day the disposables ones cost me I think it's worth it... Have enough stuff to do that I don't feel like washing diapers.

I know it's better for the environment, but still don't want to do that!

And btw, congrats to your wife and you Alex! I've been a father for 16 months now and it's the best thing that ever happened to me! Even though now I don't think I'll ever rally again lol (well maybe in 20 years or so lol)



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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 01:32PM
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I don't know how much diapers cost in the USA, but to me, the buck or 2 a day the disposables ones cost me I think it's worth it... Have enough stuff to do that I don't feel like washing diapers.

I know it's better for the environment, but still don't want to do that!

And btw, congrats to your wife and you Alex! I've been a father for 16 months now and it's the best thing that ever happened to me! Even though now I don't think I'll ever rally again lol (well maybe in 20 years or so lol)

Francois, never say never, or 20 years..
just lower the standards and have fun..
You still have the Volvo?
Well fine.



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July 23, 2012 02:09PM
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just lower the standards and have fun..
You still have the Volvo?

Yeah this!

Last year, watching Nuno and Isabel Pereira's kids (probably around 10ish ) sluff fuel cans, wrenches and other service duties for the Corolla made me realize what a bonus having kids would be... FREE service crew, you don't have even provide anything more then the daily necessities you would otherwise!
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July 23, 2012 02:14PM
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I don't know how much diapers cost in the USA, but to me, the buck or 2 a day the disposables ones cost me I think it's worth it... Have enough stuff to do that I don't feel like washing diapers.

This! Granted my wife doesn't cook, so trying to be the bread winner, cook, home maintenance dude, dad, and rally car builder, plus the battle of convincing my wife to use the reusables... I decided it wasn't worth the battle to even try.

Potty training is tough, my daughter just turned 3 and we have about 40% success at the moment. The most success we've had so far was stripping them naked and letting them play in the back yard. Pottying with no diaper is no fun, day 2 resulted in our first successful trips to the bathroom.

Grant, the kids room looks good! My wife would be in love, I had to fight hard to make our kids room less artsy like yours and more conducive to playtime and fun. Chalkboard paint on one of the walls, miniature garage fort, built in marble track, tree tent and cutouts of monsters that the kids can move from wall to wall and arrange the decor as they please.

Alex, I almost started building a crib, but we found a really nice one that converts from crib to bed as the child grows. Building a really cool kids bed is a lot more fun! Ollies shop is going to get converted into his bed with a ladder and a slide this fall so that the new kid can have the crib/bed.

Here it is just after paint, looks way cooler now with all the garage signs and the rest of the room finished. It was a blast building it with the kids, took about 2 times as long as it would have without their "help" but well worth it.
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July 23, 2012 02:30PM
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Francois, never say never, or 20 years..
just lower the standards and have fun..
You still have the Volvo?
Well fine.

I was just joking, but yeah I still have the Volvo, I'm even dropping some parts to a friend next week to have some kind of "good enough" tarmac suspension so I can do Sanair next year. Probably just the rallycross since I doubt I will have a full cage and all the safety stuff by then. baby steps hehe!



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July 23, 2012 02:51PM
Francois,

We still need to get together for beer...

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July 23, 2012 02:57PM
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Francois, never say never, or 20 years..
just lower the standards and have fun..
You still have the Volvo?
Well fine.

I was just joking, but yeah I still have the Volvo, I'm even dropping some parts to a friend next week to have some kind of "good enough" tarmac suspension so I can do Sanair next year. Probably just the rallycross since I doubt I will have a full cage and all the safety stuff by then. baby steps hehe!

Bugger the suspension for Sanaire, find something like this and survive:




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Re: Oops i got my Navigator pregnant ... can i borrow yours? :p
July 23, 2012 03:59PM
Disposables cost estimates range between $800 and $1200 per year. We'll spend under $500 total cloth diapering on material and estimate for water and detergent around $100 per year so the savings is pretty substantial.
But hey, it's like the Subaru vs. 2WD debate. Everyone thinks disposables are worth the effort and that cloth diapers are SO much work. I'm doing it and it's super easy.
I also found a 40k mile longblock locally for $150 that I'm hoping to pick up this week, Sean's working on chassis harness as we speak, John's got my damper (sorry gotta call you back), one cage finished last week, next one coming into the shop tomorrow, all fuel system stuff is here, stand alone with new engine harness is here. It's pretty much assembly time. Think I'm going to aim to do the hill climb in Grand Junction at the end of September. All you Idaho peeps should come to that one. Epic road! Considered by most to be more fun and challenging than Pikes Peak when it was dirt. And it's cheap and you get money back, more if you win!



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