Pikes Peak Evo Crash
Posted by aj_johnson
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Wow. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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And double wow.  John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Yeah yeah whatever. The major stupidity of the idiot braggart is in thinking. Not recognizing his own extreme limitations and ignoring precedent. Human errors, and those human errors explain partially by his age, location (cultur of the area) and what passes for but isn't "education". Anybody who ignores the use of the bodyshell as a relatively strong foundation on which they ADD an additional reinforcing structure--the cage--who ignores that the base structure---the bodyshell has some somee basic "coherence" and strength is a fool. Anybody who destroys the basic shell and as we see from the naked cage, the rest of the "car' kinda disappeared so it must have not been intergrated together with the cage at all---any normal person doing that is just foolish, a twerp bragging that he "knows cages" its outrageous. Yeah the lives were saved. But that was to a large degree pure dumb luck and not "thankls' to the cage. It was that they just missed the bigger rocks and the way a object skipping down hill has glancing blows as a function of the steepness of the hill. draw a piccie if that ain't clear, (My body has been the object skipping down hills, duddn't hurt near as much going down as smashing you body into an uphill face..You kinda notice that when its direct blows into your own "bodyshell"  (and you done it a few hundred times, you start catagorizing what hurts more vs less. Like asphalt meh bad but. Concrete...BAD, hurts way more and way more abrasive to skin.)
had that thing flipped on level ground and say slid wide an hit a rock face on the outside of the car and had a full sudden stop it would have been 2 guys dead thanks to the arrogance of whatever the genius guy bragging is called. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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Every time I see the door bars I can't help but think about how they would have failed in a serious side impact. (Straight into the seat where the bends are)
I suspect A-pillar bars would have helped in this one as well. I don't think I'd get in a car with that cage. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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I think we all know that cages are expected to bend in a big enough impact. What concerns me is that other than the initial impact, these were not 'hard' impacts but, as John says, glancing blows. If they had gone into the trees it would be a different story.
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Some more pics showing the seat.
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