Bogus Basin Hill Climb

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Holy crap that Audi has some stones on the straights!!

Not bad for a 4k+ lb pig eh? Now if only the idiot behind the wheel could drive a decent line...

Dan, gimme a call next time you are awake.

The lines were fine. The idjit just needs to learn to use the brakes as hard as he uses the gas, and downshift so the car exits the corners with some "vigor".

(Cause it sure looked like the car was coating up to the corners and just rolling thru them)

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Not a bad looking hill climb considering it's all asphalt.

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Holy crap that Audi has some stones on the straights!!

Not bad for a 4k+ lb pig eh? Now if only the idiot behind the wheel could drive a decent line...

Dan, gimme a call next time you are awake.

The lines were fine. The idjit just needs to learn to use the brakes as hard as he uses the gas, and downshift so the car exits the corners with some "vigor".

(Cause it sure looked like the car was coating up to the corners and just rolling thru them)

Yeah, brakes would be a big one. Gearing is another huge one their John, 1st is over by 35, 2nd goes to 70mph, 3rd to 110. I also need to keep the loud pedal planted for longer. I lifted a lot.

But at the end of the day it is my DD and I like it as is. That's why i'm building a race car with much better gears and brakes, and I won't have to drive it to work the next day.



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But at the end of the day it is my DD and I like it as is. That's why i'm building a race car with much better gears and brakes, and I won't have to drive it to work the next day.

You pussy. I'm driving mine to work tomorrow......

After watching this video I can tell I left a lot of time out there. I only had 2 goals at this event which were to not crash and not break anything. I met both. I did however want to beat AJ but braking way too soon and lifting when I shouldn't be cost me that. Oh well I guess I won't get any big name sponsors for my huge flat bill hat and won't be rich and famous quite yet haha. I am still getting used to driving this thing. Right now I've driven a total of 3 times at speed, 3 times around town and once to work. I have more excuses, just ask

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But at the end of the day it is my DD and I like it as is. That's why i'm building a race car with much better gears and brakes, and I won't have to drive it to work the next day.

You pussy. I'm driving mine to work tomorrow......

LOL I may have to take mine skiing just to one up you!

Dan, I like the fact that you can hear the motor in your vid... Wanna go to maryhill and do it again? it's the weekend after olympus...

I think we're bailing on Mary Hill. Got to sort out the power solution. The lil 1.5 Si motor has limited potential. It is a new motor and everything is in perfect condition and we have spare everything so hard to just toss it and go the twin cam route.

I can cam our engine and shave the head, probably good for 20-30 hp.
Boost ours, maybe 30-40 hp reliably.
ZC head on ours...still about 20-30 hp.

ZC swap...30-40 hp and everything needed..trans,axles and so on.

B16 swap..we have a good long block and Skunk2 intake, still need a lot of parts. 60hp gain.

Problem is when God handed out torqs, Honda heard dorks and said we'll pass, give them to the other guys....

Dan just put a b18C in his integra.

This was the second pull I think, In the final the mid area is much fatter/smoother and I he picked up another 4 or 5 up top




There are not much to found for torks tho.

Also, did Brent tell you about the single cam boosted CRX that was there? Turned a fast time of 1:54 something. Very reliable little car, on megasquirt, 275-300 whp and quicker than snot. He needs a cage though.

I'm a bit leary of just going hog wild and making the car useless for other racing. I'd like to keep it NASA,IRDC and SCCA legal for something intelligent. Don't want to end up in a class running sports racers..or LS powered Caterhams. Jeebus that guy is fast.

Dans pull sheet looks pretty good. I'd guess we have about 75hp at the wheels.

Mine pulls really good for a NA honda. Second gear is a bit long compared to my 3rd-5th gears though. Also I was shifting 1st to 3rd because the syncros are shot from 1st to 2nd. Downshifting to 2nd was fine though. Also all the honda nerds I know say stay away from the b16. Apparently they are crazy low on torque and don't last long compared to the b18's. I have no experience with them though.

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Mine pulls really good for a NA honda. Second gear is a bit long compared to my 3rd-5th gears though. Also I was shifting 1st to 3rd because the syncros are shot from 1st to 2nd. Downshifting to 2nd was fine though. Also all the honda nerds I know say stay away from the b16. Apparently they are crazy low on torque and don't last long compared to the b18's. I have no experience with them though.

Dan the shop slave/engine clean up guy where I have done engine work for 25 years ---and where I'm headed in a few minutes---had a pile of B series stuff and it was all ready for assembly but he was a tear down guy and the other guys are top fuel V8 type heroes so I told him to bring his stuff over---it was all obsessively clean--he'd just clean clean clean during slack time--and I siad I'd check and assemble a motor..
He's a friend but he asked "why would you do that?"
I said I would charge him two packs of American Spirit Blue ciggie and I would get to see what's up, what the stuff is like really by measuring and inspecting something I would otherwise not have a chance to learn---since I ain't in the rice-boy street scene.

Well the B16/18 and the hybrid 2.0 stuff is really nice stuff. Good steel crank, good steel rods, nice light cast pistons everything well sized for modern stuff (for example much stouter crank on both mains and rods than 4AGE) only thing hairraising was the valve stem diameter of 5.5mm where I'm used to seeing 7mm, or old school 8v stuff on EVERYTHING I had previously done being 8mm or 5/16.

It made great torque for a 1600... A 1600 n.a. is only ever going to make so much torque.. and it was quite high rpm that peak torque came at.
But that's fine, via the gears we convert RPM to torque.
(His was in a Del Sol so the gearing was waaaaaaaaay MPG, I hit 90 in 3rd up a big long hill, but it would bog bad in 4th, so fuckit back to 3rd and over 9500 rpm. Yeeee haw!)
He had found some B16 JDM cams and pistons, and we used those.
He pounded the piss out of it----he was Spanish and kinda a mongrel like me having lived all over, and was flat crazy.....especially considering he was "sin papeles" if you know what I mean...

He romped on it constantly every day and it help together for about 16 months, dies an easy death and then he put it back together as a 2,0 somehow (or using the other junk he had).. He said "Madre dios mio!!!! I can't fawkin believe how much stronger it is at 2,0!! Aye yai yai!!! "

Torque is always more or less a function of: engine volume and dynamic compression ratio. The Honda head certainly was made intending to tolerate insane cylinder pressures without detonating...

And there's no substantial differences in the physical parts B16 vs B18 so hooey..

I always say that since we don't have capacity classes like "max 1.3" or max 1.6, then there's no reason to just give away torque that, all things being equal, goes up in direct proportion to engine volume, or withn reason, maintaining good numbers inside--like decent rod length---
go big.

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Sleezattle, WA, USA

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John, I was talking with a guy this weekend that had spun multiple rod bearings. He was saying it was due to where the oil pickup was. I guess they are prone to oil starvation(at least the generation he had) and if you get a second or 2 of oil starvation it would spin a bearing. He said it was fixed with the different oil pan the B18's have. I don't know this for sure because I haven't bothered looking into and I've definitely never rebuilt a motor. I'm an aircraft mechanic after all, not a car mechanic haha.

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John, I was talking with a guy this weekend that had spun multiple rod bearings. He was saying it was due to where the oil pickup was. I guess they are prone to oil starvation(at least the generation he had) and if you get a second or 2 of oil starvation it would spin a bearing. He said it was fixed with the different oil pan the B18's have. I don't know this for sure because I haven't bothered looking into and I've definitely never rebuilt a motor. I'm an aircraft mechanic after all, not a car mechanic haha.

Yeah whatever the case there's huge Lego-ability in that engine fambly.
Only thing screwy is the use the exact same 3 wire connector for TPS and MAP and we had the book out and they change colors at the connectors and we had not a single wire out of 12 possible that matched the book in any way.. And reversing made it run like stink to like 2499 rpm and then it was crying big tears from the Zyklon B coming out the auspuff..till I just said aw fukit and swapped them...

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John Vanlandingham
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John..I'm on AllData service program. Any time you need a wiring diagram give me a call. It is a pretty dang good service.

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Dan, I like the fact that you can hear the motor in your vid... Wanna go to maryhill and do it again? it's the weekend after olympus...

Do I want to YES. Can I...no . With Olympus the week before most of my spending money will be taken care of. Remember I can't exactly drive my car long periods of time. Well I could but doing 70-75 for a long period of time with my low gears wouldn't be fun. Plus I would need that Monday off work.