Andrew Steere Godlike Moderator Location: South Central Nude Hamster Join Date: 12/29/2005 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 2,008 Rally Car: too rich for my blood, share a LeMons car |
Held on with three 6-32 screws with a convenient Kevlar skid plate on top as a "backup". Andrew Steere Lyndeborough, NH KB1PJY |
Matt Follett Ultra Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 646 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
John Vanlandingham Mod Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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Banned Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
I'd think that anyone with a car that is significantly lighter, to start with, than the new minimum weights would approach CARS and ask about getting an adjusted minimum weight. Asking for a minimum within reach of your car's curb weight sounds reasonable an I expect would be given fair consideration. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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Banned Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
What you say is 'obvious' simply isn't the case. Lining up with RA rules was definately neither a goal nor a driving factor. The final choice of restrictor sizes was influenced by current RA standards and in the intrest of many cross border competitors. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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Matt Follett Ultra Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 646 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
John Vanlandingham Mod Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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Banned Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
The technical committee had input and I know they weighed cars at a number of events to see what weights were actually being run. Be sure you do. If for no other reason to lobby for the 'old' classes to be maintained regionally. That said, expressing your thoughts about the new national classes is also important. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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Billy Elliot Mann Senior Moderator Location: Royal Oak, MI Join Date: 08/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 557 Rally Car: 1996 Honda Civic with VTEC YO! |
Banned Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Yes. In the western events we typically have two regional events that equal the national distance. Not entirely certain on how the east does it as I haven't needed to pay attention to their regionals. I can tell you that the Quebec regional championship doesn't share any events with the national series but the Quebec nationals still offer club events for those who can't, or don't want to, enter the national. (you need to 'successfully compete in' two regionals before being able to get a national license) First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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adam crane Godlike Moderator Location: Seattle, WA Join Date: 01/28/2006 Posts: 382 Rally Car: corolla GT-yes |
John Vanlandingham Mod Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
This bullshit about differences in the CAR between a regional and a National is well more stupid bullshit.
Smart people would concede the only differnce between a regional entrant and a "national Championship" entrant is the box he ticks, the money he pays, and the licence in his pocket. Smart people would try and make the transition easy so when a cocky young guy decides to step up and measure himself against all comers on a given day, its not some re-do of the car or the management for that one weekend the "National comes to town".. And the stupid idea was floated here not so long ago and failed misrably, because its stupid. And the reason the RA weights went up is because the Vermont Sports car Subies were newer, heavier models---they are a lot bigger cars, so when they went up, they just pick up the phone and call RA and poof a new rule "to be more fair and discourage "un-safe" construction" Rememeber anytime you need to do somethings stupid alway jsut blurt out "for safety". Then you can shift the attack when people figure out the bullshit.. Think of the children!!!!!  John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Banned Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
What does Alberta have to do with it? The committee members were from all across Canada and the board that made the final decision to adopt it is also from across Canada. I'm simply sharing what I saw of the decision making process in this so that people get some idea. Let me spell it out for you. Fundamentally CARS saw that the current class structure didn't make a lot of sense. (a 2.5l NA 2wd 'production' car would run in PGT against STis and Evos, as an example.) This was also seen in the entry fields where the vast majority of cars entered were update/backdate cars that were pushed into open for non-performance reasons.(and often being beaten by well driven pgt cars, although that class was also under subscribed.) Looking at the 2wd classes, G5 has never been well subscribed in Canada while G2 has always been healthier. IIRC, The west adopted G5 before the national series did and we've never seen more than one or two cars in the class. In the very beginning a 4 class system was suggested but the committee was formed and given an open mandate to bring back what they felt was a class structure that made the most sense for moving forward. What was announced is very close to what they brought back. What exactly are you suggesting we did simply because RA did it? I have to ask because not only were none of the rule changes due to anything RA did but the idea that CARS wants to copy RA all the time is absurd. (I will grant you that some of the specifications were chosen because of what RA is doing, but that isn't why the rule changed in the first place) Suggesting that only shows how little you know, or understand, about CARS and how it works. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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