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Re: turbo question
December 15, 2012 09:46PM
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I was once offered a PGT WRX drive for a regional event as thanks for spending lots of time drinking the Mendhams' beer, fiddling with the car, and driving all over the eastern US and Canada to service for them. I believe it was Niday who told me I could do it if I put a 28mm restrictor in the car. Between the hassle of getting a restrictor made, getting the car tuned for it (so it could be slower than my Legacy street car but not blow up), putting it back to the 32mm restrictor after the event, and the fact I was going to have to fab new seat brackets to fit in the car, I gave up on the idea.

You should have done a Canadian event...eh!

The reality was (and is) I couldn't afford to write the check to buy the car if I wrapped it around a tree, so even if I HAD run, I'd have driven like a wuss. It was one of the Team O'Neil events, so close enough to home to be tempting to a broke moron....



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Re: turbo question
December 24, 2012 08:15PM
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We all know how a full F2 kit car with 265 bhp n.a. and short short gearing would be perfectly legal and "obviously" incapable of harming anybody but a stock 240 Volvo with 130 bhp is judged too dangerous.

Say, what's the displacement limit in Group 2?

I was just reading about some fancy new circle track Ford based engine that dumped out 375hp from 3.2l and eight valves. Doesn't sound cheap, but that's horsepower for you.



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Re: turbo question
December 24, 2012 08:37PM
G2 limit is 3.0, if I member right. Link us to that motor, sounds badass!
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Re: turbo question
December 24, 2012 08:42PM
I will as soon as the guy spills more data. All I know at the moment is 191ci, 375hp, 275ft-lb, 11:1 compression, pump gasoline, quad 55mm throttles, and it's somebody's street toy.

I figure that dropping 10ci won't hurt the power *too* badly.

On the subject - is there still a pushrod de-multiplier? Chevy has a new Midget engine that runs pushrods, and they finally stuck the cam on the exhaust side so the pushrods don't get in the way of the intake ports...



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Re: turbo question
December 24, 2012 10:34PM
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On the subject - is there still a pushrod de-multiplier? Chevy has a new Midget engine that runs pushrods, and they finally stuck the cam on the exhaust side so the pushrods don't get in the way of the intake ports...

I think G5 still has the multipliers to figure out the limit.

G2 (RA) went to straight displacement w/ different minimum weights for 8 and 16 valve engines...nothing for pushrod.
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Re: turbo question
December 24, 2012 11:13PM
Could work for a particularly weird Open Light car though.
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Re: turbo question
December 26, 2012 08:34PM
First time poster, long time creep...i mean lurker. I enjoyed reading the shinnanigans that took place on this site but, this post made me finally sign the deed.

Anyway, this rule is the final straw in my not participating in RA events. I read before i bought a car, just didnt read clearly enough. (My own fault i know) Between pricing raises, and pure douche canoing going on in the "RA camp" I have decided to save my moneys and haul to RWV and give Anders my monies. Just wanted to vent about it finally. See you in West Virginia!



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Re: turbo question
December 26, 2012 09:17PM
Does anyone have any experience asking RA for exemptions? Result? I know I've read about most people getting the "NAW" response, but it's either one person, or anecdotal evidence, usually. What IS experience?

I'm not sayin' "Hey, RA, let me drive my supercool AWD blue Subaru sti with 400HP". More like "Hey, RA, I have done this, that, and the other, so, would you let me have an exemption JUST for this one turbo'd RWD car and nothing else?"

So, if not - how many non-RA events would you have to do to have 'experience' enough to GET the said exemption? I know the "9/9 coefficient" deal, but... ...is that that?
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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 12:23AM
IIRC it was Conte & Ericson that got an exemtion for Perryville F&F for 2011 - the "how" and "why" they will have to relate, I just seem to recall they ran their Subie with the turbo as only a "engine-compartment fogging-device"....



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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 01:04AM
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Does anyone have any experience asking RA for exemptions? Result?

Just show up with a flat brim ball cap and claim you're some kind of Xtreeeme sports star. Full contact juggling on unicycles or something. Doesn't matter what, just make something up. They'll put you right into and Open class VSC Subaru. Hey, it's worked before!
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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 06:28AM
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IIRC it was Conte & Ericson that got an exemtion for Perryville F&F for 2011 - the "how" and "why" they will have to relate, I just seem to recall they ran their Subie with the turbo as only a "engine-compartment fogging-device"....

There was a turbo housing, but none of the magic spinning happiness that goes inside.



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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 06:45AM
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There was a turbo housing, but none of the magic spinning happiness that goes inside.

That was pretty much my plan for RA events - just replace my CHRA with one that is sealed up... ...or maybe wait until RA folds and see what shakes out? *ducks*
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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 01:55PM
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IIRC it was Conte & Ericson that got an exemtion for Perryville F&F for 2011 - the "how" and "why" they will have to relate, I just seem to recall they ran their Subie with the turbo as only a "engine-compartment fogging-device"....

There was a turbo housing, but none of the magic spinning happiness that goes inside.

I could have SWORN they had a "full housing", but the compressor was bypassed and it became merely an exhaust-restricted, low-compression, pig-rich-not-tuned version of Subaru's boxer engine.... (that sounded like an Electrlux about to take flight, as the car "oozed" deceptively-slowly past you)



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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 03:13PM
Back in 2007 I inquired about a waiver and was granted one based on the local hillclimbs I'd been doing since about 2004. Of course the waiver was granted for a 323GTX that made all of 140whp...

If you're going to ask, just list out all the motorsports related stuff you've done, and hope that the list includes more finishes than DNFs. ;-)

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Re: turbo question
December 27, 2012 03:29PM
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There was a turbo housing, but none of the magic spinning happiness that goes inside.
...or maybe wait until RA folds and see what shakes out? *ducks*

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