Olympus sanctioned by USAC

Thanks you guys and gals! This will be a great thing.

On the plus side, this may assist USAC in improving some of the issues had at this years pikes peak. So is there any plans for olumpus to be included in any series? CRS?.....

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On the plus side, this may assist USAC in improving some of the issues had at this years pikes peak. So is there any plans for olumpus to be included in any series? CRS?.....

Pretty far from California...
My guess would be Cascadia International Rally Championship presented by USAC.

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Yeah I was wondering if those two might be connected entities. Seems very possible.

Anders

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Yeah I was wondering if those two might be connected entities. Seems very possible.

Or not.

The revival of the Cascadia Cup is being driven by Ben Bradley, Lee Clark (Dirtfish), Jennifer Daly (co-driver and Big White organizer), Tracy Manspeaker (co-driver and Olympus organizer) and ... can't remember who else.

alan

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

alan

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"



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Sure all the stuff already mentioned is important but...what about them moving dates pretty much on top of Idaho? Seems to me like a crap move that will negatively affect BOTH events. I know they didn't mention to the Idaho Rally Group they were planning those dates. Two regionals 2 weeks apart is too close for most regional level teams I would think.

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

alan

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"

Am I really seeing Eric Wages defending RA's intellectually property rights? What a strange world!

alan

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

alan

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"

Well it's been reported all over they he doesn't pay his bills to organisers of events, the T shirt guy, Pete Lahm for notes..
Maybe that the way things are done now....???

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

alan

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"

Am I really seeing Eric Wages defending RA's intellectually property rights? What a strange world!

alan

I didn't see him mentioning intellect---in fact some may suggest that its the lack of intellect that is RA's problem..
Most 25 y.o. boys are lacking that in the extreme.
cf facebook "If we can find somebody to buy the media content (Foggy Jr is presumably going to "make" we'll all be fabulously wealthy!!!!"

If you mean copyright...did RA draft from a clean sheet of paper 100% of the rules---or did they revise somebody elses'??

Not an area I'd like to defend.

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Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

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Sure all the stuff already mentioned is important but...what about them moving dates pretty much on top of Idaho? Seems to me like a crap move that will negatively affect BOTH events. I know they didn't mention to the Idaho Rally Group they were planning those dates. Two regionals 2 weeks apart is too close for most regional level teams I would think.

Dan,
I fully understand what you're saying here. There was much discussion over the date and there were various issues with any date. The biggest issue would be repairing danaged cars and people getting time off for two events that close. Financially they have lots of notice and should be able to set the money aside. I agree with you that more calendar distance might be optimum.

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Sure all the stuff already mentioned is important but...what about them moving dates pretty much on top of Idaho? Seems to me like a crap move that will negatively affect BOTH events. I know they didn't mention to the Idaho Rally Group they were planning those dates. Two regionals 2 weeks apart is too close for most regional level teams I would think.

Why did Idaho move from July into the middle of a historically crowded month for PNW rallies this year? It moved right on top of when Mtn. Trials would have run if there hadn't been organizational issues in BC.

During my first year of rally, my driver and I did 4 events in 5 weeks (19 May, 24-25 May, 8 Jun, 15-16 Jun) and we were a no-budget operation. The events were in BC, AB and WA.

alan

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Financially they have lots of notice and should be able to set the money aside. I agree with you that more calendar distance might be optimum.

Ferfawkssake man are you suggesting people PLAN AHEAD?
God GAWD think about what you're suggesting!

What would happen if everybody thought like that???*



* bonus points for the correct answer to that famous literary quote.

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"

Am I really seeing Eric Wages defending RA's intellectually property rights? What a strange world!

alan

I didn't see him mentioning intellect---in fact some may suggest that its the lack of intellect that is RA's problem..
Most 25 y.o. boys are lacking that in the extreme.
cf facebook "If we can find somebody to buy the media content (Foggy Jr is presumably going to "make" we'll all be fabulously wealthy!!!!"

If you mean copyright...did RA draft from a clean sheet of paper 100% of the rules---or did they revise somebody elses'??

Not an area I'd like to defend.

Copyright, patents, etc. are all types of intellectual property (not "intellectually property" Doh!).

alan

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At this time, the plan is to run to Rally America rules. ... I need to go through the book and identify and solve the problems with this approach.

I would imagine the largest stumbling block would be that little section just inside the cover, the one that takes up Page ii.

Do you mean the copyright notice? Where does it prohibit inclusion by reference?

I am not a lawyer. Blah blah blah blah blah.

The playing field I see is RA's ability to function/exist is slipping away from them. Someone else taking their property and using it without their permission may be construed as theft. I can *easily* see them being willing to file a lawsuit to take ownership for their rules.

After all - a sanctioning body is there to provide no only insurance, but a ruleset to operate under.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to fight a lawsuit with an entity that has nothing else to loose. Maybe RA will be become a North American rally rule copyright troll?

If you want to use the rules, maybe pick up the phone and ask Bill: "Hey, you mind if the event that just told you to take a hike uses your rules and doesn't pay you for it?"

Am I really seeing Eric Wages defending RA's intellectually property rights? What a strange world!

alan

I didn't see him mentioning intellect---in fact some may suggest that its the lack of intellect that is RA's problem..
Most 25 y.o. boys are lacking that in the extreme.
cf facebook "If we can find somebody to buy the media content (Foggy Jr is presumably going to "make" we'll all be fabulously wealthy!!!!"

If you mean copyright...did RA draft from a clean sheet of paper 100% of the rules---or did they revise somebody elses'??

Not an area I'd like to defend.

Copyright, patents, etc. are all types of intellectual property (not "intellectually property" Doh!).

alan

No shit...
It's still missing the more important question: did they revise what was produced over the years by Some Collection Created by Another?

Maybe Foggy Jr and Pops could double their money now by selling the rights for $2....anybody with a Marketing degree should know that doubling your money is a deal!

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.