john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
You'll be fine, and if more guys would get easy, basically right car that were easy to mod the scene out there would eventually grow... Friends don't let friends buy Blue Subarus. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
JohnLane John Lane Junior Moderator Location: Lynden Washington Join Date: 01/14/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 725 Rally Car: The Fire Breathing Monster |
M-45, M-46, m-47 all have the same issue.... Intended to run behind an engine with little power and not be abused.
I broke too many of them in the rallycar... Gave it expensive Quaife close ratio gearsets that were fantastic as long as it was naturally aspirated. Broke those with the turbo six. Both sets. The Volvo now has a Jerico Dogbox and 9" ford with 35 spline Moser axles. With the next set of upgrades we'll see if that stuff lives.... Hee-hee. JohnLane Overkill is consistently more fun |
Cody Crane Cody Crane Elite Moderator Location: milwaukie Or Join Date: 12/30/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 22 Rally Car: honda |
It would keep popping out of 2nd and I decided to hold it in second to finish the run but that was apparently a bad idea after I couldn't get it to go into any other gears and could barely get it to stay in 2nd. haven't really done enough with it to know any tricks or weakness on it yet besides the transmission but it is a fun car with a locked diff and a little more boost with the fast roads we run on I think I might be able to do better with the volvo than my current rally car and build it to take my abuse with out a ton of money
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
The Volvo box looks like they didn't ever enlarge anything all the way back to the B18 in the 50s--not until the M90.
I say this with some good certainty because the never changed the block deck height, or bore c-c or stroke, or main bearing size, or compression height--all the critical machining dimensions from the B18 all the way to the last B23 and on the B230 is was only main bearing and rod bearing and rod c-c they changed all the way to the end of the cast iron block motors. What worked for Farfar o gumman out for a drive on Sunday with a car maxing max 65bhp but never revved past 2200 simply doesn't work for hard core hoonification.. When I living in Sweden and driving to obscure tracks and sand pit in the boondocks on the weekend, if ever there was a line of 8-20 cars crawling along, it was ALWAYS a grandpa in a Volvo that was at the head of the line, ALWAYS. That's who the car was marketed to, designed for, and for that it worked fine...It was the same in the mountains here going skiing, but then it was a Volvo wagon. Here's the cure: Volvo bellhousing with simple mods: ![]() And GM V8 trannie bolted to it: ![]() Only the gear stick needs to swoop back in a 7 series. Excellent rations 1-4 and a realistic 5th if one is gear down a bit like 4.3. Common GM output yoke, Spicer 1310 u-joint, a simple mount like this: And here it is in a 240: As for the rear shocks and the axle location, the 2 problem areas, easy cure for anybody who can weld: Towers welded in something kinda like this: ![]() And long links---once the stupid kidney bean shaped tank is booted. Sumpin lime this only a tad longer cause the volvo is longer. ![]() End up wif sumpin like this: ![]() Nice piccies here: http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=27782&page=7 John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
a'nudder juicy piccie:
see the turrets or towers in back.. That's the way to do it--except I prefer eyelet mounts on top ![]() John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Creech Scott Creech Professional Moderator Location: Jane, MO Join Date: 12/02/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 415 Rally Car: Audi 90 Quattro (WIP) |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
When there's rubber in the suspension links, things move. We hit shit sideways, right? So that means things move <---that way or ----> not just ^ and V. If you have PIN tops and they're bolted down snug when you whack sumpin and the link go----> the bottom isn't any longer under where it was and should be and there is a bend moment resolved right at the guide bush so there a high chance of the shock rod looking like < or > in steada I When you have a spherical bearing top and bottom the sphere kinda rotates a little and the force is V and ^ and all is well.. Or weller-er. So welding a couple of D shaped ears either side of a [ ] hole seems easy as does closing it off with a strip of scrap to keep the mud off and that is cheaper than buying my Sooooper Bitchin HD M12 Stainless Steel pin mounts when the shock come with nice spherical bearings.. Make sense? I have a nice metaphor most guys understand involving thinking of lingham into yoni and all is good and its plongé plongé all is smooth TILL the angle of the dangle is too great and plooop! Not good. Its similar. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2012 06:16PM by john vanlandingham. |
OjNK Gordon Sleigh Infallible Moderator Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Join Date: 12/09/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 56 Rally Car: 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS P4WD |
You know, I sometimes have to read your posts four or five times to suss out what you mean, and even then I'm not so sure.
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Creech Scott Creech Professional Moderator Location: Jane, MO Join Date: 12/02/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 415 Rally Car: Audi 90 Quattro (WIP) |
I see - so you are advocating not just an "eye to eye" shock - but one with spherical bearings. Here all this time I had rubber-bushed ones in my mind. I get what you're saying about bending the shaft-end as well.
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Then you're thinking too hard. Don't think. Metaphor and visualisation. Go with the flow, or as we used to say (in some way vaguely referencing so accurately some sensei) Glow with the schmo.) If that doesn't do it copy and paste and ask, "wot da fawk youse mean, mang?" John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |