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This is in general discussion as his flamewar generally is not contained to one general area. Also, I don't know if EVERYONE looks at off topic. Anyhow, some people may care, most probably don't, but this is apparently his side (maybe the abridged version?) and my "longer than abridged but not full length as I don't have time to deal with it" side.
Take your seats, class is in session... Modern PNW Rally History, A Study of Two Stubborn Men
Oh, that's your side? I've never heard it. I've always wondered, though. I've even called you a few times after you deemed me "unworthy" in attempts to make this retardation stop... but apparently you like it too much. I ceased being Johns friend after I realized how much he belittles people. In person, over the phone, online, etc. I recognized him for what he was, and called him out on it. And I walked away. MAYBE in the beginning after this thread I don't even remember, lol, I might have said something to him that made him go off on HIS crusade. I'm fighting back, yes, but I'm not the crusader. I'm just holed up Jerusalem trying to hold my walls. (going with the crusade theme - I can compromise... ) But what I *do* know is that for the last few years, 3+ everything between us has been started by him. YES, I have made threads for him to go on his rants about me, but that was in efforts of saving the thread HE derailed attempting to hurt my feelings, I guess? That's the sad thing, really. I have no idea what he wants, or what he's attempting to do. I just sit back, read it, and laugh, and wonder how someone could spend so much time harassing one person. And don't you dare try to say I spend the same amount of time. I've SEEN you write posts. You start them, come back to them, look up threads to reference, come back, make tea, come back, and then post. Oddly enough, he never seems to proof read. You can tell he's REALLY angry when he just throws out simple typos, vs intentionally butchering words. I spend maybe 10 min tops during a whole day of browsing and I see your post, I reply, I go on with my life not giving any fucks. You should try it. It's quite relaxing. Give no fucks about me, don't even mention me, and this problem would be over. Anyhow, I'm getting off subject. What I recall is talking about things that I *wanted* but not necessarily *needed.* John did not approve of such things like wants and wishes, and made it full well clear to me that (this is when I thought him a friend, mind you) I was being stupid and frivolous and wanting things for masturbatory reasons. I started to chalk it up to him not being able to understand how "spare money and time" (or fun money as some people call it) work. I've always had a job since knowing him, except for the bits where I've been in school. A lot of that time, I worked and went to school. So I *had* fun money. And I wanted to build hood louvers. I wanted to press/buy some aluminum louvers, get them anodized black (That's what brought this all up, I asked if he could send them out with his next shipment of anodizing stuff. We never made it to the color part...), and then I could lay them up in a few plies of carbon fiber. Why did I want to do all this? My family (not immediate) owns an aerospace plant and I can use the scrap/out of date (perfectly fine for non aerospace use) PREPREG carbon fiber. Ever used double sided tape? Imagine stacking that a few times. The hardest part is remembering to cut it 0-90 or 45 (weave direction). Then it would be vacuum bagged BY the staff, and cured in the autoclave, by the staff, on there next run. I'm out the cost of louvers, anodizing, and a saturday afternoon. Not really that big of a deal... But that's of the first things that started bothering me. You can see it on the forums too. He'll make fun of you when you want something you don't need. Another big thing was when he was building my suspension. I gave him a chunk of money, 400-600 or so, I can't remember, that was for either front or rear dampers. I think it was rear... When I came to pick them up, or I asked how it was going (a few weeks -> a month later) I was told they weren't there yet. I asked what happened. He used MY money to finance some volvo guy's car across the country because "I didn't need them yet" FUCK YOU I "don't need them yet" I fucking PAID for them. That was MY money. For MY parts. And I sort of remember things spiraling downwards from there. I don't blame him for what he's doing. It's too much fun to troll him back as he tries to degrade me. It's amusing. It's sad that its at the cost of forum threads, but I'm not just going to let him roll over me. A lot of people take it. I'm not a sheep. Nor do I believe in the Church of Comrade Vanlandingham. John doesn't like me because I wouldn't take his shit. He doesn't like me because I think for myself, vs letting people spoon feed me. He doesn't like me because I vocally oppose him. He doesn't like me because I question his business practices. Now, the funny thing is, there are a few things that I'm very thankful of John for. Things he seems to think I disregard. I'm very thankful for when he towed my car home. I've even MORE thankful when he told me where the closed hospital was when my brother broke his wrist mountain biking with me (no smart phone at that time  ) There's probably more stuff I could think of if I really thought about it, but honestly, anything that doesn't immediately come to mind has more or less been replaced by how he is now.
A sad, angry man attempting to torment someone who thinks someone trying to torment him is funny. I've said it many times. The key to ending this is for John to just stop mentioning me. Stop mocking me, stop bringing me into threads I have no relevance to (like the brake thread, I think it was? I just happened to look at it and saw a quip). As amusing as it is, I'm not going to let it just sit there unanswered, and thus begins the flame war. Either he's having as much fun as I am in this battle of his (which, honestly, would be a bit on the strange side) or he really is THAT much of an asshole. Anyhow John. I'll invite you once more to step off your soap box before you fall and break a hip, and just be civil. My prediction? I'll be mocked. I dont think he likes the idea of HIM stopping it. But that's the thing. I'm defending myself. That's it. He needs to stop. If he wont stop, it will never stop. It's that simple. It'll either stop with his choice, or it'll stop when he's dead. It's that simple. (this one took a bit longer, maybe 25 min or so) I'm gonna cross post it as its own thread, someone else might want to know who wouldnt be reading in here. Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
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Lol fair enough.
It WAS asked, I answered. Anyhow, I doubted anyone really WOULD care, but whatever. Also, comic is hilarious. Reposting here...  Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
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I thought it was appropriate.
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HOW DARE YOU?! I'M STANDING OVER THERE! You're so stupid and wrong. Also, Timmy, I don't know you. I barely know John. I'm not taking any sides. I'm just saying that this whole thread is just "Mommy, he hit me! *cry cry cry*" I know I have nothing to contribute and nothing to say that's of any use to anybody, and I'm just posting useless and annoying stuff because I have nothing to do after work. Fair enough. It's also probably none of my business. But stop whining, please.   Have a good day and please get some ointment for your butthurt.
That's the whole point of rallying! Or literally every sport ever. You have a good time for the sake of having a good time and go about it the way you want to. Something about something....dirt. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2013 06:02PM by Houdini91. |
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