Put-up or Shut up.

Enough beating around the bush.

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john vanlandingham
Seems "pointed" because that's your internet tactic to pretend like you're offended, and Then you pretend you are outraged so you can divert questioning of policy to a dead end of you harumph harumphing.

I'm outraged when you needlessly start namecalling and bullying because you don't like something.
Anyone who knows me also knows that I encourage discussion on policy and issues. I'll admit that I generally have strong opinions in those areas but it isn't like I can't be swayed or that I shove my opinions down other people's throats.
I also ALWAYS have good reasoning behind my opinions.

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john vanlandingham
You're beyond proud, you are standing on a pile of something screaming that you are perhaps the best communicator in Canadian History

Nope. Never have, never will say that.
Again, you're lying in such a way that you try to inflate your stature in the community only by attacking and deflating others. So weak, so predictable, so Napoleon complex of you.

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john vanlandingham
Natuarlly when you position yourself as "The Man with ALL the Answers---and continually make hints and oblique reference to all the insider knowledge you are privy to---BUT you can't say, too secret!!

I have NEVER positioned myselff as 'the man with all the answers,' ever.
When I do have answers, I try and be helpful and give them.
When I'm asked and I don't have the answer, I say I don't. When I make mistakes I admit them. (Try that on for once)

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I reference third party conversations because there is a growing body of people that believe that your little gang in Calgary are ruining CARS just like the idiot Harper is ruining Canada.

OK, this is where the rubber hits the road.
I challenge you to give examples of how 'my little gang in Calgary' is ruining CARS?
(not that I HAVE a gang in the first place)

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john vanlandingham
...where your opinions don't fuck with my friends and colleague plans and pocketbooks.

Again, give me even one example of where I have done something that has fucked with anyone's plans or pocketbooks?

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john vanlandingham
No response is needed, we've heard it all before, some bullshit.

Yah, you don't get to decide when a response is needed or not.
If you decide to spew untruths like this in an effort to denegrate me and make yourself appear to be some fucked up folk hero, it gets - and deserves - a response.

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I repeat this shit because there is a thought one day you might begin to think "Hmmmmm I wonder how this (latest) brilliant idea will affect most of the guys, it's ONLY another________ in cost or __________in time"

See, this is where you once again show your ignorance. The cost to the competitor is something that is ALWAYS in the front of my mind. Suggesting it isn't just shows how little you know about me.

So, please give examples of the above atrocities you attribut to me 'and my gang.'

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Blame is for idiots. losers.

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/05/2013 12:18PM by Morison.

Fucking give it a rest Morison.

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Fucking give it a rest Morison.

Just because John is widley dismissed as a crackpot 'who's lost it' doesn't mean I hae to sit back and let him spread unfounded, and un upportable, bullshit just because he has some reflex hated for his idea of me and who I am.

Yah, OK. This is his sandbox, built as a refuge for him, but does that really mean he can get away with whatever he wants with zero accountability?

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john vanlandingham
Blame is for idiots. losers.

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wvonkessler
Fucking give it a rest Morison.

Just because John is widley dismissed as a crackpot 'who's lost it' doesn't mean I hae to sit back and let him spread unfounded, and un upportable, bullshit just because he has some reflex hated for his idea of me and who I am.

Yah, OK. This is his sandbox, built as a refuge for him, but does that really mean he can get away with whatever he wants with zero accountability?

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

I have not paid attention to the latest edition of JVL vs Morrison. I will say that I don't understand why John has such a soft spot for Kieth.

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Robert.

"You are way too normal to be on Rally Anarchy." Eddie Fiorelli.

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Rallymech
I have not paid attention to the latest edition of JVL vs Morrison. I will say that I don't understand why John has such a soft spot for Kieth.

I dont understand why no one else tells him to shut the fuck up when he's blatantly lying. Whether its about a person, or idea, or government body, what have you.

I was really surprised when people actually spoke against him in his brilliant "Just dont hook it up" anti submarine strap advice.

Honestly, its unfucking believable how much you all bend over and let him fuck you, while then yelling at people who stand up to him.

Unfucking believable.

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Tim,

Your biggest problem is that you don't know when to keep your mouth shut. Remember what I just said about 50/50?

This is a good example. Tim says stupid stuff that sets John off. John's responses are totally disproportional. I get that.

I don't agree with everything Kieth says but he isn't unreasonable. I don't understand what the problem is.

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"You are way too normal to be on Rally Anarchy." Eddie Fiorelli.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2013 08:47PM by Rallymech.

Nobody is getting fucked all there is is one or two little whining crybabies who don't understand the term contempt..
Whiney bitches are genrally held in contempt by most normal people.

Not to hold a whiney bitch in contempt --or to equivocate---is not natural..


All you are here for Timmy is to complain and bitch about one thing..
Grow up, get over it and shut the fuck up, NEWB*

I am not giving anybody any shit except those who sling shit here...
or are morally corrupt individuals.



*Most normally adjust people , even younger people know there is a certain hierarchy which may be dependant on a number of factors but all hierarchies or groups of people nearly all agree that NOOBS,. NEWBs beginners, never-done-anything relevant yet--always receive a fair dose of shit, especially when they talk a lot of shit. Eventually those newbs by doing whatever the interest group activity is for some time are no longer newbs, then they can speak with something behind it..

Most normally adjust people...

Somehow, Timmy believes he should be exempt from the way the world is--right or wrong, but is..

Shut the fuck up, whine at your daddy so he gets back to work and finishes the car, move out so you're an adult and quit whining--and you'll be treated like a man.

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Dear John,

You have no idea what my priorities are concerning my rally car. You have no idea who does the work on my rally car. Yes, Dad helps me. He does not do everything. It would be stupid to even consider the idea that my father is building an entire rally car for me, of which I pay for.

My car has never been my 100 percent full first priority. And it never will be. Rally will never be my first priority. Tom Burress once said it best, "Rally isn't what you do to make money, its what you do with your money." Hence one would (should be able... ) realize that one first NEEDS the money to rally. Car or no car, if you cant pay for the entry fee, it doesn't matter how long your car has been running.

You are just like any other bottom barrel car fanatic. You are concerned with my car. "How is your car?" "is it running yet?" Only now its turned into some terrible attempt at shaming me? I think? "Go finish your car"

Why do you care so badly if I finish my car? It's MY fucking car.

My priorities have always been school, work, saving/growing money, and then fun things, like mountain biking, rally, whatever else I want to do.


There is a simple reason my car isn't done. I am in no real rush. I'll finish it when I fucking want to. There is no prize money/trophy/instant stardom/cold beer/crazy stories upon finishing it. I am in no rush. IT's that simple, but you seem to love cooking up crazy reasons why its not done, as you seem incapable of understanding that it is *not* my first priority.

I may be young, but I'd rather set my self up NOW for the ability to play later in life, then blow every paycheck, and not have any real savings or investments when I'm 30. MY friends are always broke. I don't make much more then them, usually they make more than I do. I have fun money. I planned for it. And it's working.

So go back to your little kitchen, put on some water and make a nice cup of shut the hell up tea, and drink it while considering the idea that my values and your values dont, and will probably never, line up.

I'm different than you. Stop criticizing me for it.


Also, notice I never talk about how well I will do in rally, or talk about other's poor performance. I am in no position to talk about that. Why do you even consider "Never running an event" grounds that I am not qualified to tell you to piss off? That's just dumb. The logic isn't there.

Lastly, with the amount that you swear at people, and the amount of effort you put into trying to make me feel bad, belittling me whenever you can, and whatever else you throw towards me... You're really the one who needs to grow up. And you seriously need to fact check. I don't speculate why your stuff isn't done in a reasonable time, don't speculate as to my position.

Get over yourself.

With love,

Tmm

PS,

I leave you with a Winston Churchill quote..

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

Right or wrong, I'm not being a sheep. I even give you credit for that. You're obviously trying quite hard to make me feel bad. I'm sorry its not working.

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Man, and I thought my drag racing forums had a lot of drama..

Ok,
On reflection I took the bait and stooped to name calling in my original post in this thread. That was a mistake and I aopogise for changing the quote reference the way I did and some of the language I used.
It was childish of me and, although no different than John's standard language, I should not have done that.

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john vanlandingham
Blame is for idiots. losers.

wow... JVL calls it like he see's it. Its a opinion on the internet.. If you dont like what somebody says to you on here, fucking leave or ignore it..

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gagegregory
JVL calls it like he see's it.

Sure, but he closes his eyes before he calls it.

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Driver (7), Co-Driver (44)
Drivers (16)
Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4)
Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0)
Last Updated, January 4, 2015

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john vanlandingham
Blame is for idiots. losers.

Not sure how this thread isn't in Off Topic. It's not about rally, the intent isn't about rally, the title isn't about rally, and the original post isn't about rally. Doesn't even have the word 'rally' in it till post #10.

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Grassroots rally. It's what I think about.