Multi-car haulers
Posted by NoCoast
Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Banned Professional Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Allan Dantes Mega Moderator Location: Herman, MI Join Date: 01/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 176 Rally Car: 87 Mazda LSRX-7 |
Banned Professional Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Kevin Wesley Super Moderator Location: Michigan Join Date: 02/28/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 46 Rally Car: 1976 Dodge Dart Lite |
One car and everything you could ever need in the truck, 2nd car on a standard trailer behind. Easily service 2 cars, titled as a motorhome and way cheaper than a diesel truck and enclosed trailer. I should sell it since I bought a motorhome to replace it and haven't used it in a couple years. Make you a deal... Thanks, Kevin Wesley Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2013 08:12AM by kwesley. |
Banned Professional Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Banned Mega Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
Hardy Schmidtke is running a 1 ton dually box van dmax towing a 2 car bumper pull. Everyone who has driven it so far has seemed happy enough. I've always been curious as to how a 1 ton box van is rated to tow that load, but that isn't my problem so I've never looked into it 
I don't think there is a cost savings beyond going two car anyways. At some point, you need so much space just for equipment for one car (especially if you are hauling multiple brands), and the weight starts to get up there. Two cars essentially splits the fuel costs in half (as mpg doesn't really decrease with another couple thousand pounds of car and trailer). But after that, your costs savings starts to go way down per additional car. Plus, it's hard enough to get anyone to agree on anything (let alone rally drivers), couldn't imagine doing it with 3+. I am currently towing a 22' trailer with a 1/2 ton that only weighs ~5500 pounds with the truck itself loaded plus driver and co-driver (then add on another ~5500 pounds for car and trailer). Considering a 1-ton would weigh around 9k pounds when loaded, be longer, and a two car trailer is what, 28'? Having a proper sway control setup would do wonders, not some crappy friction system bought from Harbour Freight. And then there is the whole crashing cars and having to go get them thing (which I am experienced in quite well, athankyouverymuch ). Can't do that with a semi (or even a baby semi). I think that once you go past 2 cars, you aren't doing yourself a favour, you are doing others a favour. For the amount of work involved, might as well get a part-time job to earn yourself the extra money (and have less hassle).
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Kirk Coughlin Mod Moderator Location: Saint Paul, MN Join Date: 01/08/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 493 Rally Car: Dreaming of escorts and xrats |
I had always fantasized about a one ton pickup with a camper on the back to sleep in/have tools in and then tow the car on a trailer. The older I get, the more my body seems to say 'hotel' though.
 Kirk Coughlin Woodbury, MN and River Falls, WI Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. |
Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
I drove MJ's E350 box van with two car and his WRX and Blockwood's Fiesta on it from Denver to LA for the X Games a few years back. Hit 92 or so coming out of the mountains. I didn't think it was too bad at that point in time myself but it seems like ANYONE who buys one sells it in short order.
The stage retrival issue gets a little trickier. Borrowing someone else's rig is feasible if you aren't a dick and your fellow competitors actually like you and the event has enough people around. I know of at least one person who had AAA take care of it. 
Honestly, aside from giving my rally car and all the parts to Sean with the stipulation that I can come out now and then and run a PNW event, I don't see myself doing many events that are much more than 100 or 200 miles from home. I still firmly believe tow vehicles are a huge barrier to rallying. That 400-450 a month lease payment on a truck sucks. Or you buy a 10-15k truck and plan on $3-5k per year maintenance. Or you buy a $2-3k one and hope for the best... Any way I look at it I don't like it. Grant Hughes |
John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Sometimes I think you can actually reason real well. ^ That was excellent. Too bad you can't figure out to get a better car. one that is cheaper. And 5 times the fun. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Scott Creech Godlike Moderator Location: Jane, MO Join Date: 12/02/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 415 Rally Car: Audi 90 Quattro (WIP) |
Banned Mega Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
Costs involved to rally are the same up to a certain point. John doesn't like to acknowledge the fact that $25k buys you my STi or Grant's Merkur, both equally aggravating and costly to work on (and race) in their own way 
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