Looks like the fast Euro test may come to pass at Oregon....
Posted by Josh Wimpey
Andrew Sutherland Professional Moderator Location: Studio City CA / Camas WA Join Date: 02/22/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 275 Rally Car: Subaru, EVO, Honda, Husky |
John NOOOOOO!!! We don't want him coming to local events and showing us non-sponsored amateurs some next level shit!!! |
John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Sucks... Damn Jap crap junk.. I aint suggesting going slower , but I am suggesting getting rid of 2 diiffs and extra halfshafts that you don't need to go fast.. You did notice a little 1.6 with only one diff and 2 half sahfts spankin you didn't ya? And last year that other Oztralian in that simple 240 sNissan was going pretty damn quickly and had only one diff and 2 half shafts.. PROOF! if it was ever needed that anybody can go faster than what you've been doing without all those expensive and fragile crutchs. Hence lower costs. One step backwards, 2 steps forward and the icing on the cake is you'll learn to be a better driver. Win win. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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I normally don't decide to like or not like someone (officially anyway) until I've met them in person. It's the internet, so I don't take it all that seriously. Lomg story short....relax 
*Edit* Wow, some good internet rumbling in here! The argument for two vs AWD is a good one, better to see talent than a big checkbook. For what Block or Higgy spends on a yearly budget, 10 people could rally for 10 years with a belly full of steak and a trunk full of booze. I was building a rally car about 10 years ago, 85 4000 quattro with a 20v turbo motor. I was shoveling the money at it and then Rallymoto was invented..... sold it all, even my ice tires and bought a bike. RM is much simpler, more about the rider than the bike. The first event was won by a guy on an old 80's vintage XR600 followed by a group of guys on $10,000 dirt bikes When traction is limited, skill certainly becomes more important.
When some old school rally folks talk trash about RM(RA mostly), I just laugh. I'm probably having twice the fun and spending 1/100 of the money. I can see myself running a 2 wheel drive car someday, maybe sooner than later? Those R2escorts are pretty cool! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2013 09:33AM by crankshaft. |
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I said "may". You relax lol :p |
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John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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I think Tony's point is still valid: even if racing is over at the Flying finish of the last stage, there is still plenty of competitor behavior that I don't want happening.
I don't want service crews leaving for illegal service so that the team can make the final observation control. I don't want the teams speeding and getting tickets. I don't want the team driving drunk. I don't want the teams getting in fist fights, or giving townspeople the finger as they drive by. And so on, unsportsmanlike conduct and others, I'm sure. The smallest change necessary, rule-wise, to affect the needed change (the problem was simply "transit time is too short"  would be to lengthen the transit time. Because some people had already arrived, that wasn't really doable. The next smallest change is to say "we'll dismiss lateness penalties", since that directly addresses the problem. (The actual problem, remember, is not enough time.)
Making the final control an observation control is a potential solution, but not one that I feel best suits this situation where there's a 40 mile transit. (I'm guessing at the length, since I thought I remembered that it was something like a 56 minute transit or something. Anyway, some non-three mile transit.) For some other scenario, say, a 200 yard "transit" from a SSS, an observation control might work really well. Maybe other situations too, just haven't thought of them. But one must also consider the extra documentation/training that the _racers_ will need as it's not what they're used to. Anders Grassroots rally. It's what I think about. |
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