Hooked on rallyX - so - questions

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Yeah, cars like the Corrrrrrarrrrrrrrrrrrrrdo and the Scirocco are styling exercises that are less functional than the boxes they're based on and tougher to get body parts for. But for grass-o-cross, who freakin' cares? The shell is a big WHO CARES for that use. And since the Corrrrrrrarrrrrrrrdo is the kind of car that there are two or three of in every police impound lot in the country, parts really aren't THAT bad to find. Sometimes you even find "evidence" the police missed (got crack?)!

Actually, the Scirocco did have advantages over the Wabbit, even if it shared the chassis. Having owned all of the above, cannot be said about the Corrado IMHO. I do love the Corrado though. Good solid Karmann build.

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"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne

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Thanks all... for some helpfull, and some well - rather off the wall advice.

Bilstein HD's it is then, and experimentation with various non-short springs.

Stance - don't get me started! Many of the others in our local club always gave me heck about "stance". WHO CARES - I needed to be able to drive over curbes at the road tracks - not to mention on our crappy roads here. None of that flush crap on this car.

Tracks - The Tulsa Raceway Park one looks to be comprised of mixed grass and gravel road sections. Looks very smooth overall. The new (not yet developed site) to the east of Tulsa looks like farmland. The BCR track is comprised of hardpack on the inside line, and pillow soft dirt mixed with big clump dirt on the outside from the RWD guys chewing it up (avoided most of that stuff with a tight line and did pretty good).

Speed - BCR was a 2nd gear afair. I expect the same with the Tulsa area tracks.

No matter what, since the local (1.5-2 hour vs 5-6.5 hour away) folks are using the SCCA rules, that will always put me in MF anyhow, just like autoX. But with only 4-5 other competetors - I can probably manage a top 5.

BTW - what's the deal with '92 SE-R Sentra's and RallyX? Looks like the local competition will be mostly comprised of these and their expensive cousins, Infinity G20's.

Bryan

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Never ending Corrado project...
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I'd rather run a Corrado than a Golf. Golfs are too tippy IMO. You're limited by trying to not roll the car.

Ummm? What?

A Corrado and Golf are identical in every way other than the roofline _{and really rare, and therefore exxpensive fenders/hood.foofy unimportant things that cost lots more and you can't find when you bang it up... That and shitty forward visibility.}I doubt the center of gravity is more than 2mm or 3mm lower on a Corrado

Been around too many Corrados I have.. I wouldn't drive one, but some people think they're pretty.
There is certainly no advantage to the shell.

Yeah, cars like the Corrrrrrarrrrrrrrrrrrrrdo and the Scirocco are styling exercises that are less functional than the boxes they're based on and tougher to get body parts for. But for grass-o-cross, who freakin' cares? The shell is a big WHO CARES for that use. And since the Corrrrrrrarrrrrrrrdo is the kind of car that there are two or three of in every police impound lot in the country, parts really aren't THAT bad to find. Sometimes you even find "evidence" the police missed (got crack?)!

Dayum mang, I told you youse wuz smrat!


That's the type of "think ahead' thinking that goes a long way in the Rally World...

### The advice would be different if there was talk of stage rally in the not-too-distant future. But if you enjoy grass-o-cross and that's ALL you want to do, use what you have and know.


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Hey OP, notice that everybody is telling you what you should do without anybody asking you anything about the gross-o-crosses you do..??
Or what your course have for surface---or anything?

### Again, it's a who gives a sheeeeeeit deal. Surface? It ain't pavement, so you want something that'll bite some on loose surfaces. Yeah, there are some who have gravel tires and mud tires and all that, but really some open tread blocky round black street snow things will work for most cars most of the time on most surfaces you'll encounter. If you're worried about "winning" in grass-o-cross (or OtterCross, but don't tell my dad that), you're doing it wrong.

And you din't tell us either what speeds, surface, roughness etc..
Many are BORINGLY SLOW first/maybe second gear wank fests..
Some are pretty gawddamn YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

Bear in mind that whatever the case: weight transfer---and 3 minutes..

Any old shiit will last 3 minutes..
Fresh new shit--I mean like OEM quality stockishh but new will last 3 min.

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Lyndeborough, NH
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Thanks all... for some helpfull, and some well - rather off the wall advice.

We're more Off The Wall than Michael Jackson's fifth solo album.

BTW - what's the deal with '92 SE-R Sentra's and RallyX? Looks like the local competition will be mostly comprised of these and their expensive cousins, Infinity G20's.

Bryan

They're cheap, they make good power for cheap, they handle pretty good, and they're FWD, which means you're immediately Timo Haistaviituperkele with the left foot braking. And they're cheap. And the G20s are probably cheaper than the SE-Rs off the back of the Buy Here Pay Where sleazy car lots since 98% of the population doesn't want to drive a stick while texting.

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BTW - what's the deal with '92 SE-R Sentra's and RallyX? Looks like the local competition will be mostly comprised of these and their expensive cousins, Infinity G20's.

Bryan

Old SE-Rs have a motor that is a real pearl. The SR20DE is 86mm bore, 86mm stroke. It was really made to be their "Homologation Special" for Group A rally.
The old GpA rules mandated STOCK:

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• intake and exhaust manifolds,
• stock ports--or what the OPEM claimed was "the blueprint dimension and tolerances , so max production size +0,8mm
• stock valve sizes which are 34.1 and 30.1mm for the Nissan --compare with 32/29 for VW and Saab 16v)
• stock crank and rod dimesnions

So everybody made engines that were right straight out of the box that you could just swap cams and injectors and fiddle the ECU and make 212-220 bhp..
Nissan used the motor in turbo form in "Sunny GTR" awd car and in Sunny (hatch) "F2" car as FWD in British Championship and did good.

(Toyota did their 3GSE, GM did the Opel 'XE", Ford did their RS2000 "DOHC"---all of these were also 86x86 bore and stroke)

So a kick ass motor combined with a gearbox with 4.08 final drive--when most shit boxes were 3.64 or maybe 3.89---and they had a GKN Visco-drive viscous LSD...Not set very tight but tons better than and open diff.
4.08 final drive wasn't 'hurt" as much when using taller gravel tires as a 3.64 would be..

In brief the motor is detuned from around the easy 215-230 they could make with just ECU and cam changes---the intake runners had enough volume that they would flow for the HP the motor would make---in contrast to VW 8 or 16v, Saab 8v or 16v which had manifolds that would choke any n.a. power over around 175..

Good basic cars in other words--but sold in USA in a 3 box sedan rather than the whole rest of the world in something Golf sized.

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cool another okie, we are supposed to have a rallycross in tulsa in may, go to greencountrymotorsports.com and check it out, we update there

Another cool Okie who also refuses to show any respect for the one hard and fast rule we ask people to abide in: a full real name and real location.
Wonder why?

john typically forums don't ask for that sort of thing. More of a "i didn't read the rules" and not a " i don't agree with the rules".

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Koolaid on specialstage just an FYI

Thanks John for the excelent in-depth reply! I had no idea.

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cool another okie, we are supposed to have a rallycross in tulsa in may, go to greencountrymotorsports.com and check it out, we update there

Another cool Okie who also refuses to show any respect for the one hard and fast rule we ask people to abide in: a full real name and real location.
Wonder why?

john typically forums don't ask for that sort of thing. More of a "i didn't read the rules" and not a " i don't agree with the rules".

You still just have only a first name up..

This is not conceived of or intended to be a typical forum.
Notice there are no moderators.
What typical forums do is have a bunch of guys bullshitting and repeating shit that have never done, or childishly arguing that "technology has changed" (while never stating a single way in which "technology" has changed in whatever the subject is---EVER) and trying to negate suggestions about things they've never touched or seen much less worked on.
Fortunately, we only have 1-3 people here like that rather than most forums rate of around 95-98%.

It is intended to actually put humans together with other humans--to do that we don't want to have a bunch of pretend "on line personalities" with "on line names' and in essence no idea who anybody is, or where they are..

Hence a real name like John Vanlandingham is a real name for me, an individual---John isn't..
Sleezattle, Washlincoln is a (obvious parody and unmistakably) real location.

You have been made aware now several times, there's a "Read this First Noob" link to click..you are still showing just Reece.
Are you ashamed of who you are? Do you want to play games?

Personally I have always found it childish and immature that people want to have fantasy names of "worry' about their identity....and untrustworthy, like they want to hide.
It doesn't engender any feeling that I want to help somebody who---when they see more than 99% putting their full names and locations up, refuse to do the same..

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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CALL +1 206 431-9696
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is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.