Cochrane recce
Posted by Morison
Tony Wood Godlike Moderator Location: Wichita Join Date: 02/02/2009 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 181 Rally Car: 83 Citation "Oskar" |
Peter Nazarewycz Godlike Moderator Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: 08/23/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 76 Rally Car: 96 Honda Civic Hatch |
What are peoples biggest concerns with doing recce in there rally car? What are the biggest advantages?
I loved doing it in the rally car! I heard from one competitor later that they didn't note some crests because in there truck...well it didn't look like there was a crest! But the biggest reason I did mine in the rally car.... I didn't have a hole lot of testing time from when I got the engine and suspension in so this was a very light test.....also the rally is 40 mins from my house so no tow was needed. I had the best time last weekend and cant wait till October for pacific Forest Rally! I'm always posting on Instagram...follow me! PeteNaz Instagram My Build 
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- Lack of comfort (rally suspension is generally poor at road speeds) and it is often a LONG day just before you compete. (Cochrane's recce wasn't a long day) - Tough(er) to write in (see above) - Noisier, particularly if you're not using transit headsets - Expensive if you're on race gas or run a fuel hungry set-up - Wear and tear on the rally car - Risking dnf-ing because of an issue on recce. (rare, but it happens) One time a respected team locally did recce in their rally car at PFR. They ended up being pushed into a ditch through absolutely no fault of their own and DNF'd the national event and the first day regional. Yes, a freak incident, for sure, but it happened. Others have DNFd with mechanical failures on recce that would probably have happened on event anyway... still less stage miles and some would have been caught in service. - Tempts some people to 'test' a corner or two... leading to dangerous situation or complaints from the public. We do see generally, but not always, better behaviour from people in road cars rather than rally cars on recce - Public perception that we are 'racing' on open roads just because some cars have numbers on them. (same perception with TSDs, btw) None of the Western Canadian events regulate against rally cars on recce because the stages are almost universally in unpopulated areas with low 'local' traffic. Generally the events do ask that numbers be removed from the car if you're using a rally car (other than the recce ID number) - Rally Tires and under body protection - Calibrated Rally Odometer in the car (assuming the rally car has one) - Cheaper than renting a car if you don't have something suitable - same sight lines as in the event - a chance to test the grip of the road surface (and risk pissing off the organisers) Crests come in different flavours and it is more than just sight lines that determine if something is a crest. Also, you'll note crests differently if you're running the stage at night. Generally, it doesn't take long to sort out what will be a crest in the rally car but as seen from another vehicle. I also do advocate doing recce in something with similar sight lines as the rally car if possible. If you really can't wait... there are a couple events before then, if you want to travel. :-) First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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Banned Elite Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Most organisers couldn't care less about dealing with the occasional complaint, if there are public concerns, in fact I usually thank people for bringing their issues to me when I'm organizing. The concern is much more about the locals complaining to the authorities who grant road permissions - that's a much more difficult problem to work around. The only real answers are public education about what we're doing and eliminating the perception that we are misbehaving. That some of us ARE misbehaving doesn't help. One of the best PR moves we've done is to set-up visible radar in a sensitive local area. The community was thrilled, even if they were the ones going the fastest through the area. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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Peter Nazarewycz Godlike Moderator Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: 08/23/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 76 Rally Car: 96 Honda Civic Hatch |
Yea I knew for sure through waiparous in the 30kph zone you would be setup! I very much so enjoyed doing Recce and thought it was very very beneficial to my event! so thanks! while it is hard keeping the speed down (especially at 30kph) because in everyday driving most people will be 10kph over consistently...the whole feel of the event and being a part of it made me feel like I was an ambassador to the event and that showing the public we know how to drive, within closed and public roads was a cool feeling. Although I noticed that through that town into recce I was in the very front of the line for probably 10 cars haha...stressful haha
What are some good options?
O and Thanks again Kieth for all the help, and just general conversation all day! I have an incar video and as soon as I finished my first stage, I can see you walking right over to the car to ask how it all went.... I really really appreciated that and to everyone else at the event that I had a blast talking to! I'm always posting on Instagram...follow me! PeteNaz Instagram My Build
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Banned Elite Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Nameless (2400 km return, from Cochrane) looks to have good stage distance for good money. A couple of Canadian teams are planning on it and from everything I've heard it should be a good time, but only three weeks away. We're also taking a serious look at Mendicino (4,000km), but it's a really good haul (you might spend more getting there than at the event.) Idaho (2900km) would be good, but is only a week away, and I've heard a lot good about Ojibwe (3200km return) in late august. Glad you had fun, that's why we're all doing this afterall! First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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