Pics frin a meet up at a rotary fanatics house.

some pics from the event today! enjoy! pretty much a rotary wonderland! What can you spot? Like the MFR engine, the 1200 pickup, etc. :willy_nilly:

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First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (7)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (2.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0) # of rotations (3.5)
Last Updated, Apr 9, 2023

Lurv thissun the mostest:



Simple. Clean, reliable, and above all simple.

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Sleezattle, WA, USA

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I find this totally offensive:

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
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Oh, and I want the Evinrude snowmobile. I can see the fish cops getting their ticket books out for aftermarket exhaust...but ossifer, it's bone stock!

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I'm pretty sure I'd be kicked out of that place.


I take the cars souls, and replace them with much better engines.

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czwalga
I'm pretty sure I'd be kicked out of that place.


I take the cars souls, and replace them with much better engines.

Come Steve, I don't know if you are the one to talk about better engines, based on toyota's recent record.

Awesome shop. I love the Cosmo.

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I'm pretty sure I'd be kicked out of that place.


I take the cars souls, and replace them with much better engines.

Come Steve, I don't know if you are the one to talk about better engines, based on toyota's recent record.

Awesome shop. I love the Cosmo.

Nooo toyoduh.... up for sale.









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So I see this a lot and I just don't understand the younger generation's fear and hate for the Wankel engine. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Someone told them to "Crank my Wankel" and they got offended, and had to get therapy for years.


People hate the rotaries these days?

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So I see this a lot and I just don't understand the younger generation's fear and hate for the Wankel engine. Anyone care to enlighten me?

120k miles, 3 engines. stock except for cooling upgrades. If they were great engines more people would use them.

Shitty gas mileage for what it is, apex seals, loves oil. That's just me others love them, I don't. Still the pictures are really cool



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I take it as kind of a compliment. Hey, great car, and since we're American hot-rodders we're going to throw a different engine in it. The FD did have two major flaws with it that prevented it from being a reliable car... the primary turbo, and the secondary turbo.

While renting dyno time at another shop, we had a look-see at some of their customers' and employees' cars. They had a very sano '68 Tempest with a LS2/4L60E swap. They used an actual GTO engine and painted the engine and the raised sections of the engine cover Pontiac blue. Looked almost like someone time-warped the drivetrain to the late 60s and put it in.

And one of the employees was almost done with his truck 5.3 + giant turbo (HX52? giant Diesel thing) swap in a '90ish Mustang, because that IS the cheapest way to stupid power in 2013. The biggest problem becomes traction, the second biggest problem is getting a transmission to live in between the two.

The rotary's biggest advantage is that they're cheap to upgrade. How many engines can live at 9500rpm with nothing more exotic than a little machining on stock internal hardware? How many engines can make power up there with nothing more than some more judicious metal removal from other areas? Gotta love it.

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Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.



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rallycrossing a Cosmo 110s would anger all the people.

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First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (7)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (2.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0) # of rotations (3.5)
Last Updated, Apr 9, 2023

Except rotaries are some of the most reliable racing engines out there. I've known guys that went well over 10 years on the same engine in their race and rally cars. I never did that with any piston engine. The engine in Dave Hintz's old RX7 rally car which I built in 1999 (Dave had that engine rebuilt the year prior) has been going strong for 15 years and three different owners and that's a turbo with some mods. Scott Koch is running the car now.

If you went through 3 engines in 120k miles in a street car then you were doing something wrong.

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Except rotaries are some of the most reliable racing engines out there. I've known guys that went well over 10 years on the same engine in their race and rally cars. I never did that with any piston engine. The engine in Dave Hintz's old RX7 rally car which I built in 1999 (Dave had that engine rebuilt the year prior) has been going strong for 15 years and three different owners and that's a turbo with some mods. Scott Koch is running the car now.

If you went through 3 engines in 120k miles in a street car then you were doing something wrong.

Frequent the rx7 forums, its more the norm than the exception. The NA engines were better, but anything with a turbo not so much. The 3rd one was still working when i sold it.


Not really trying to get in an argument over it, but really if they are that great you'd think they'd be used more no? Really I was just trying to make a joke, rotary fanatics usually get all up in arms when you say anything negative about it.



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Except rotaries are some of the most reliable racing engines out there. I've known guys that went well over 10 years on the same engine in their race and rally cars. I never did that with any piston engine.

Someone I know put it best when he said rotaries are excellent race engines but crappy street engines.

My bridge port makes approximately 230hp at the crank with a streetably quiet exhaust (it is, in fact, the car that I drive about 800mi/week as a daily driver) and decent road manners (and it gets 25mpg!) but I'll admit that it's far from what most people would consider to be a good street engine. Makes lots of neat noises though.

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If you went through 3 engines in 120k miles in a street car then you were doing something wrong.

That's about normal for an FD. MTBF for an engine is about 60k. Between the cramped engine bay and the restrictive twin-turbo setup and the crappy intake manifold so that they need to make boost to do anything at all, the engines are one big fat heat problem.

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Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.



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