Relative speed
Posted by Morison
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I don't think so either, my point is just to see how far behind s/km wise Yeoman is as he is the "next best" currently in the RA series. Antoine ran a VSC car at one event didn't he?
Really? VSC doesn't blow up motors every other event. The same can't be said for FY Racing. So at least in one area, FY is being beat. And the car has nothing close to the amount of suspension travel if videos prove anything. So less power (or less reliable) and not as good suspension/geometry... could be a decent difference. I wouldn't call it "negligible". I strongly disagree, based on nothing but my anecdotal evidence and observations  The numbers thrown around were $400k for VSC's spec of Higgin's car. Wasn't Lavec running a VSC car at one point? How much was that one worth and what spec compared to Higgins (I have no idea)? How much TIME (which is money) and money has FY spent to get where it is currently at (including failed attempts, like many motors) versus simply being able to plop down some cash and gain valuable experience racing rather than DNF'ing/wrenching?
My point is simply that on some level, the car DOES make a difference (which we all know). Its just fun to mentally masturbate about the "what-ifs". 
But what does that mean? At the end of the day, I would think the basics (shell, suspension/geometry, weight, etc) would be similar. Unless he suggested otherwise? Edit- My initial comments were strictly about this: with the 'fast' pack closer to 7 sec/k behind I want to know how much his pace would change to the 7s/km (drop 1s/km? 2s/km? none)? Thats all  Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2014 01:22PM by HiTempguy. |
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Yup, owned by Hobbs, who bought it from Levac, who bought it from VTcar - ex pastrami car. So likely FY is closer to the edge on performance with their engines where VTcar has a buffer. All good points. Yes, he suggested otherwise. Essentially, the customer cars are all one generation old with the new spec parts being used on the works cars and the customers getting reman 'new' parts. Probably quibbling over fractions, but not really the same spec. The suggestion certainly was that the same driver in both cars would be slower in the customer car. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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Well there ya go, did not realize that FY is now running VSC engines. Interesting. Wonder if it is a maintenance thing that is causing them to pop, or as Keith said, running on the ragged edge (or maybe they do their own tuning). Either way, my mind is blown at the amount of money FY is spending then 
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Now the event is done, Ken's pace compared to the following over the whole event: Stage Winner: Average: -2.21 Sec/k Best -1.13 sec/k Event Winner: Ogier: Average -2.10 sec/k Best -0.74 sec/k Hirvonen: Average -1.82 sec/k Best -0.70 sec/k Kubica: Average* +1.19 sec/k (-1.02sec/l) Best* -0.67 sec/k *Kubica had a rough Second leg, and the 1.19 sec/k includes the stages where he shed a ton of time. The -1.02 average and -0.67 Best remove those bad stages. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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